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Windows 7: passwords for three computers or more

25 Jan 2011   #1
Just married

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 
passwords for three computers or more

I thought I understood workgroups. When I started using Windows 7 Pro, a new laptop with windows 7 Home Premium, and Wifes Laptop using XP Home. During my attempt to get them all communitacing with each other I was able to get my desktop W7Pro talking to wifes XP, all though cannot get her talking to mine, W7 keeps asking for a password and user name, same thing with the W7 laptop. Each of the W7 computers wanted me to create a W7 password to be used with W7 computers. I have tried to set a username and password on eacho them without success. I seams when I am on the W7pro desk top I set a password for the laptop, go to the laptop to access the w7pro no luck, and visa versa. I think one of my problems is terminology, it appears I am going in circles. I have allways used workgroups in the past, now W7Pro wants me to use Homgroups, what is the difference. In all the attempts when I try to map the computers they all show up as part of the homegroup or workgroup, so the computers are seeing each other except for the W7Pro desk top can all ways see wifes XP laptop and add or copy files. If anyone out there can understand this would like some help.


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25 Jan 2011   #2
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Just married View Post
I thought I understood workgroups. When I started using Windows 7 Pro, a new laptop with windows 7 Home Premium, and Wifes Laptop using XP Home. During my attempt to get them all communitacing with each other I was able to get my desktop W7Pro talking to wifes XP, all though cannot get her talking to mine, W7 keeps asking for a password and user name, same thing with the W7 laptop. Each of the W7 computers wanted me to create a W7 password to be used with W7 computers. I have tried to set a username and password on eacho them without success. I seams when I am on the W7pro desk top I set a password for the laptop, go to the laptop to access the w7pro no luck, and visa versa. I think one of my problems is terminology, it appears I am going in circles. I have allways used workgroups in the past, now W7Pro wants me to use Homgroups, what is the difference. In all the attempts when I try to map the computers they all show up as part of the homegroup or workgroup, so the computers are seeing each other except for the W7Pro desk top can all ways see wifes XP laptop and add or copy files. If anyone out there can understand this would like some help.

Workgroups--Use IPv4 for networking. For mixed OS networks and older hardware. Less restrictive about passowrd, UID, etc. User name is unique to the machine John on laptop pword 123, isnt the same as john on your wifes w pword 123. machine\user\pwrod.

Homegroup- Use IPv6 for win 7 machine only. has connectivity issues on some older hardware. You have to have a password and it is a single one for the homegroup.

Instead of mapping you could try simple sharing.



Ken J
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26 Jan 2011   #3
Just married

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 
network problem

I read you difference between HOMEGROUP and WORKGROUP, still not sure what you mean by the letter technology, must be giving away my dumbnuss (not sure that is a word) anywaythe strang thing about this when I first set up the home network I had no problem setting up the network communications between the Win7 Pro, Win7 Home and WinXP Pro. As I said my post, I got hit with a drive by virus, malware or what ever it was, it started deleting files while I was watching, I pulled the plug, re formatted the hard drive re-installed windows 7 Pro. Ever since I have not been able to get the network to talk to each other. I am using the terminology "HOMEGROUP" on both Win7 machines, but I can still talk to wifes XP HOme, she cannot talk to either Win7 machinges. The The XP machine can see either Win7 machines but when she tries to access any drive she is asked for a username and password. She has tried one of the ones created by eithor of the Win7's, nothing works. ALL of the mochines have shored all the drives involved. We all are behind a router and have tried, for a short time, to disable the firewalls on all machines, still did not help. If I understand what you said before I should be able to use a single password for the two Win7 machines, I did try that without success. Since I want to be able to communicate all three whays I gues I will have to stay with Workgroup, then the question comes up how and where do I setuyp the passwords, that is the question. Sorry to be so dumb. I though NT4 was hard, but that was easy compared to this.
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26 Jan 2011   #4
Just married

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 
homenetwork or workgroup problem

I have solved all of my problems but one. The two W7 machines can talk to each other both can talk to the XP, however the XP machine has to enter a username and password to access either of the W7 machines.

I have not found anywhere in eith the Win7 Pro or Wi7 home where to set a password for the XP machine. In the password box that displays on the XP machine I enter user as follows: \\margaret\c then in the password I enter the password I used on the two W7 machines, does not work. As I said before have not found a place in either W7 machines to establish what the password should be. I tried to setup a password for another log on user on one of the W7 machines, that password did not work. I converted both Win7's to workgroup instead of homegroup, that allowed them to communicate all around and even with the XP, but the XP trying to access the W7's needs a password.
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26 Jan 2011   #5
alphanumeric
Microsoft MVP

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 64 bit
 
 

Its asking you for a username and password for the account on the PC you are trying to connect to. When you try to connect to a PC on the workgroup it looks at the username and password you used to log onto the PC you are on. If there isn't a matching user account on the other PC it prompts you for one. What you enter has to match a username and password that was setup on the PC your trying to connect too. One way around this is to use the same username and password on all PC's. Thats what I do here at home. I have 2 windows 7 PC's and one XP PC. I don't use homgroup, I do it all though the advanced sharing settings on windows 7.
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26 Jan 2011   #6
Just married

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 
network problem

Sounds reasable, however I do not need to enter a user name or password when communicating either way between the the W7 machines. I created a W7 password and placed set both W7 compouters to the same password. Both w7's can see anything they want on the XP. The XP can see either of the W7's buth both require a username and password. I have tried to use the password I setup for teh W7's but it does not work coming from the XP still wants some other password which I have not found a way to set it up on either W7 machines. I will setup another logon user for one of the W7's to see if that works as a workgroupo log in.
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27 Jan 2011   #7
alphanumeric
Microsoft MVP

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 64 bit
 
 

It sounds like you are half way there. When trying to access a windows 7 PC from the XP PC, its actually the windows 7 PC thats asking for the password. The username and password you use on the windows 7 PC should work. Is the windows XP PC home or Pro? It might be XPs simple file sharing thats messing things up. You can turn it off in pro but not home.

On MY windows 7 PCs under advanced sharing options, Home or Work:
I have network discovery turned on,
file and printer sharing turned on,
Public folder sharing turned off,
Use 128-bit encryption is checked,
and password protected sharing is turned on.

I usually create one shared folder, give my user account full privileges, and remove the "all users".

On my XP PC I turn off simple file sharing and setup one folder for sharing as above.
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