| Windows 7: Stop IP address changes on PCs |
05 Feb 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ult X64 Melbourne, Australia |
Stop IP address changes on PCs I'm trying to stop my kids changing IP addresses on their computers.
I have set DHCP reservations in my DIR-655 router. I set each machine to DHCP and the reservation assigns the correct address.
Problem is, anyone can change the adapter properties any time they want. So I if block internet access from 3am - 6am on my sons PC using an access control rule, he simply changes his IP address to something else and he's back online.
I considered changing the subnet mask to 255.255.255.224, but that gives me 32(30) addresses, but I only have 13 devices, so that would still leave some vacant addresses for them to choose from.
There are a couple of settings in the group policy editor, but they don't work. Apparently this is a known issue. In any case, all users are administrators.
Is there anyway to stop them changing IP address, or locking out changes to the LAN connection properties, Control Panel applet or any other ideas?
Thanks
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10 Feb 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Puyallup, WA, USA |
Quote: In any case, all users are administrators. Make them standard users.
Either that or start "gpedit.msc" and browse to where I found the setting to prohibit access:
However unless they are standard users, they will probably still have access to gpedit and can turn it back on. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHZ Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70 Memory G.SKILL RipJaw 3x2GB DDR3-1066 Graphics Card 2x HIS Radeon HD 6850 1 GB Sound Card VIA 8-channel Monitor(s) Displays 2x 20 inch Acer LCDs, 1x 32" Sony LCD TV Screen Resolution 4480x900 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000 Mouse Microsoft Wiresless Mouse 5000 PSU Kingwin 1000W Modular Case Coolermaster HAF 932 Cooling 1x 120mm, 3x 200mm, CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ Hard Drives 1x Crucial 64GB SSD
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10 Feb 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ult X64 Melbourne, Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by Johnathan Lyman Quote: In any case, all users are administrators. Make them standard users.
Either that or start "gpedit.msc" and browse to where I found the setting to prohibit access:
However unless they are standard users, they will probably still have access to gpedit and can turn it back on. These settings do not work. I have tried it on a test PC with a standard user and my PC.
And you're right about policy editor - though at this stage I don't think they've heard of it yet. But when challenged with restrictions teenagers can be remarkable learning machines when they want to be
Setting them to standard users is also not an option, unless I want to be spending an extra 10 hours a week on the machines
What I was really hoping for was a router based solution.
I posted on dlink and the consensus seems to be that the DIR655 is too "low end" to support any real form of security settings. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Made OS Windows 7 Ult X64 CPU Intel I7-3770K Motherboard ASRock Extreme 4 Memory 32GB G-Skill C11Q Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 2GB SC Sound Card Creative Fataility Gamer Monitor(s) Displays LG E2742V x 2 Screen Resolution 1920x10880 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Mouse Logitech Wireless PSU Corsair HX 650 Case Whitebox Cooling Noctua NH-U9B-SE2 Hard Drives 256GB Vertex 4 SSD
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10 Feb 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Puyallup, WA, USA |
I used to be one of those teenagers you are describing now and I can promise you we are very hard to beat. I made my way around every content monitoring/blocking software/hardware put in my way. I would get a fancier router or maybe put software on the machines to limit use (if they can't figure out how to crash it by killing the processes/services and prevent it from starting in msconfig). | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHZ Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70 Memory G.SKILL RipJaw 3x2GB DDR3-1066 Graphics Card 2x HIS Radeon HD 6850 1 GB Sound Card VIA 8-channel Monitor(s) Displays 2x 20 inch Acer LCDs, 1x 32" Sony LCD TV Screen Resolution 4480x900 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000 Mouse Microsoft Wiresless Mouse 5000 PSU Kingwin 1000W Modular Case Coolermaster HAF 932 Cooling 1x 120mm, 3x 200mm, CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ Hard Drives 1x Crucial 64GB SSD
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10 Feb 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 Morecambe, Lancashire, England |
Well if he's getting around restrictions you're trying to put in, shouldn't you have a word with him?
When I was a teenager, my Mum put a timer thing on the power socket the router was plugged in to and it'd turn the power off to the router at like midnight until whatever time. Only way I could get back on was to unplug the timer. If I was found to have unplugged it, I'd get no computer use for a week.
There's also the parental controls within Windows 7 too that can limit computer usage. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core i7 920 3.2GHz Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth x58 Memory 6GB XMS3 Corsair 1333MHz Graphics Card Zotac Nvidia Geforce GTX470 Sound Card ASUS Xonar DX/XD 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24" S2409W + Dell 20" E207WFP Screen Resolution 1920x1080 + 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech G11 Keyboard Mouse Logitech G5 Laser Mouse (2007 edition) PSU Corsair HX850 modular Case Coolermaster 690II Advanced Nvidia Edition Cooling Corsair H60 Hard Drives 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex 2E, 1x 750GB Western Digital Caviar Black, 1x 1TB Western Digital Caviar Green Internet Speed 16Mbps Other Info LG Blu-Ray player |
10 Feb 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 Westminster, Colorado |
Since DHCP reservations don't seem to work on your router, I would suggest unplugging it at night or putting it on a timer.
I have a DIR-655 also, but the reservation feature does work for me. If the IP I set on the PC does not match the reservation, the PC might be able to access (in limited capacity) the network, but not the Internet. Was is the hardware revision for your DIR-655? It says on the bottom of the unit. Upgrading with firmware from the US D-Link website might help.
Also, consider a /28 mask. That should give you about 14 addresses. (255.255.255.240) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ATX Custom Build 2012 OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i3-2100 @ 3.10GHz Motherboard Intel DH67CL desktop ATX Memory 10 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Asus EAH5450 series (Radeon) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 226BW, Samsung Syncmaster P2450H Screen Resolution 226BW: 1680 x 1050 & P2450H: 1920 x 1080 Keyboard HP Wireless Elite Keyboard Wireless Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Touch PSU Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 500W Case Thermaltake V3 Black Edition Cooling stock cooling with added intake fan Hard Drives Western Digital 320 GB sata (boot), Samsung 640 GB sata, Seagate 2 TB sata (data) Internet Speed Comcast Cable business class <=18Mb {averages 12Mb} Other Info Optical drives: LG SuperMulti Blue, HP DVD 1260T
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10 Feb 2011
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#7 | | |
You should be using MAC addresses to identify computers not IPs.
Windows 7 does not currently support changing MAC addresses. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora ALX R4 OS Windows 7 x64 (SP1) CPU Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz, Turbo 4GHz) Motherboard Alienware Aurora-R4 x79 Memory 4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz) Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce GTX 690 (Stock) Sound Card RealTek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U3011 Screen Resolution 2560x1600 Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
10 Feb 2011
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#8 | | windows 7 ultimate 64 bit |
Put the router in your bedroom....unplug when you go to bed.... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homemade OS windows 7 ultimate 64 bit CPU FX 8350@4300mhz COOLER MASTER Seidon 120M water cooler Motherboard ASRock 990FX Extreme4 AM3+ Memory 16gb Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire 5850 & XFX 5850 crossfire Monitor(s) Displays hanns g 1680X1050 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard z merc Mouse Logitech wireless m705 PSU dual Antec 650 & Rosewill 530 watt continuous Case homemade Cooling 4 120mm@50cfm each/2 120mm@90cfm Hard Drives ADATA 256 gig SSD + 2 junk Internet Speed dsl |
11 Feb 2011
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#9 | | W7 Professional x64 U.S.A |
Speaking as someone who went so far as to change the time in BIOS to allow myself more time on the computer, I can second the remark that we're hard to stop.
I see three viable solutions.* Firstly, and perhaps best, is to talk to your kids about it, and make sure they understand the rules. Also, don't just tell them the rules, make them repeat them back to you, and tell you the consequences you've instated will be. It helps ensure that they truly listen, and don't just glaze over during the conversation. Secondly, is to use mac-based filtration and limitation, rather than IP based. Also, change the defauly password on the router (if you haven't already) and find a way to tape/cover over the reset button that doesn't permanently disable it. Lastly, if all else fails, would be take the power brick to bed with you, and leave it on your night stand, with the policy that when you go to bed, the internet goes off. If they truly want it back at that point, make them earn it by demonstrating an ability to be responsible.
*please note: I'm not, in any of the following, suggesting you raise your kid differently than you choose to. I'm just giving my input, and hoping it helps with your situation. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP 6000 Pro Micro Tower OS W7 Professional x64 CPU Core 2 Duo 2.93 Memory 2 GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon 4695 Monitor(s) Displays Two HP 17's Keyboard HP Supplied. Surprisingly nice. Mouse Gateway Mouse from an E2610D Case Tiny. Kinda cute. Hard Drives 150GB Sata Drive Internet Speed 45 mbps |
11 Feb 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate A Finnish immigrant in Leipzig, Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth You should be using MAC addresses to identify computers not IPs.
Windows 7 does not currently support changing MAC addresses. Solved | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
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