| Windows 7: Need help with a Home Network |
29 Jun 2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 RC - 7100 64bit |
Need help with a Home Network Hey all. This is not just a windows 7 problem, it's more of a home networking thing, but since IT guys I call all suck, Im hoping some of you all can help.
I have the modem and router both in my room. It's a netgear wireless router. I am hotwired with ethernet and so I do not use wireless internet. My family and other computers however all use wireless. I am the only computer running windows 7, and my internet is 100% perfect.
The problem I have is mostly with my father's desktop running XP. I have just barely started to google and learn and what not how to set up passkeys and WEPs etc for a wireless network.
here is what I want. I want to set up the network so that ANYONE can join IF they have the password. Just one single password. not a ton of keys generated from a passphrase. Just one password that my father's desktop (with wireless card), my sisters laptop, and my girlfriend's laptop can all use and get internet long as they apply the password to the network thru their wireless card.
How do I set this up? is this possible? How do I do it? I can access my router (on my computer) and these are my options... | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 RC - 7100 64bit CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 x2 4800+ 2.50Ghz Dual Core Motherboard Hewlett Packard Memory 4 gig Kingston DDR2 Graphics Card XFX Nvidia GeForce GTS 250 Sound Card na Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung LCD Syncmaster Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard G15 Mouse G9 PSU BFG Tech 550watt Case Crap stock Dell Cooling Side panel open on case, and a box fan blowing in. Hard Drives 300gig Western Digital Internet Speed Bike Messenger |
29 Jun 2009
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#2 | | |
WPA2-PSK AES is the best option there. You just need enter the same passphrase on all devices. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. |
29 Jun 2009
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#3 | | Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz) SomeWhere in the HOT Arizona Desert ! |
My best advice is use a Business type network setup not the Windows 7 homegroup as it only works with other Windows 7 computers. I am sure other members can help you with the password setup.
" Doc " | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built them myself, Science Experiments ! OS Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz) CPU AMD fx8350 4ghz, AMD-32 2400mhz, AMD-64 3200mhz, AMDx64 2.8G Motherboard SIS 755, ECS-K8M890M-M (Ult 7600), GigaByte & others Memory 2gb, 4gb on the Ult 7600, 4gb on Technet RTM, 32gb on FX8350 Graphics Card Draw my own Graphics, several nVidia cards Sound Card on motherboard Monitor(s) Displays 19" flat scr, 28" I-Inc widescr,22" Emprex Widescr, 23" Acer Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024, 1440 x 900, 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Compaq & Dell recycled from GoodWill Mouse Made in China Optical Wired Mouse PSU 430w, 550w, 600w, 700, 800, etc Case All Generic Full Towers Cooling Open Air & a few fans, some w/ colored LEDs Hard Drives 6 pata Ide HD's & 2 Sata HD's
added 80gb external on Ult 7600 computer,
numerous extra 1tb, 2TB, 3Tb SATA HD's
A collection of ext HD Docks w/ HDs Internet Speed Fast Cable InterNet Antivirus AVG Free on 24 different Desktops, NO Problems! Browser IE 8 is preferred, but use FireFox sometimes Other Info Linksys Routers, switches, & Hubs
Too Many USB Flash Drives to count, Biggest is 64GB !
Eight computers in my home network.
Sixteen computers at my business network.
Linked via TeamViewer !
Lots of old used spare computer parts everywhere! |
29 Jun 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 RC - 7100 64bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by McBlzr My best advice is use a Business type network setup not the Windows 7 homegroup as it only works with other Windows 7 computers. I am sure other members can help you with the password setup.
" Doc " Thanks Doc. but unless it somehow updated itself when I installed Windows 7 by default, it's the same XP/Vista network we've been using for a few years now. Just a virus ruined my dad's computer and since we've re installed everything and messed with so many settings, his wireless card and the router hate eachother specifically.
and thanks supersport. Going to give that one a try. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 RC - 7100 64bit CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 x2 4800+ 2.50Ghz Dual Core Motherboard Hewlett Packard Memory 4 gig Kingston DDR2 Graphics Card XFX Nvidia GeForce GTS 250 Sound Card na Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung LCD Syncmaster Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard G15 Mouse G9 PSU BFG Tech 550watt Case Crap stock Dell Cooling Side panel open on case, and a box fan blowing in. Hard Drives 300gig Western Digital Internet Speed Bike Messenger |
29 Jun 2009
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#5 | | Windows 7 RC - 7100 64bit |
Ok, so my father's PC is running XP, and for whatever reason, his wireless driver or something is only allowing him to use a WEP. and it's annoying.
Where can I change this? or what info do I need to supply to help me troubleshoot this.
I tried the WPA2-PSK AES and when I put in the password it said the password needs to be some hexidecimal something or 8-15 ascii yadda yadda. I'll have to find a camera or my usb drive and ill supply some screenshots. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 RC - 7100 64bit CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 x2 4800+ 2.50Ghz Dual Core Motherboard Hewlett Packard Memory 4 gig Kingston DDR2 Graphics Card XFX Nvidia GeForce GTS 250 Sound Card na Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung LCD Syncmaster Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard G15 Mouse G9 PSU BFG Tech 550watt Case Crap stock Dell Cooling Side panel open on case, and a box fan blowing in. Hard Drives 300gig Western Digital Internet Speed Bike Messenger |
29 Jun 2009
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#6 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |
home networking 
Quote: Originally Posted by Static Ok, so my father's PC is running XP, and for whatever reason, his wireless driver or something is only allowing him to use a WEP. and it's annoying.
Where can I change this? or what info do I need to supply to help me troubleshoot this.
I tried the WPA2-PSK AES and when I put in the password it said the password needs to be some hexidecimal something or 8-15 ascii yadda yadda. I'll have to find a camera or my usb drive and ill supply some screenshots. Hey Static
While less secure and not desirable you could leave the wifi in the clear and require a username and password to log on to ALL the computers. In XP you may only be able to run wep and it is annoying.
I am assuming you dont want to install win 7 on your dad (and other comps). If they were all on win 7 you could run homegroup and password the group logon.
Ill be checking back in
Ken | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
29 Jun 2009
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#7 | | |
Unfortunately, if you cannot find updated drivers, you might be stuck with using the older WEP standard. It works, but it is very poor security because it has been cracked.
Windows XP does indeed support WPA2. It depends on your hardware and drivers.
The only requirement for WPA passphrase is that it needs to be at least 8 characters. If your devices are telling you to put in hexadecimal characters, those are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. |
29 Jun 2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 RC - 7100 64bit |
God I love these forums. Even if we don't end up fixing anything. The speedy responses, the self-less attempts to just help someone in need. Very Appreciated fellas and ladies.
I'll try a few of these examples and see if I can troubleshoot it.
and to clarify some other stuff. What is the standard order of operations? It should go something like...
Web Browser of Router changes Passkey
Save and Close web browser on computer 2.
Unplug router and turn off computer 1.
Plug in router.
Turn on computer 1.
Enter passkey
Profit?????? | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 RC - 7100 64bit CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 x2 4800+ 2.50Ghz Dual Core Motherboard Hewlett Packard Memory 4 gig Kingston DDR2 Graphics Card XFX Nvidia GeForce GTS 250 Sound Card na Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung LCD Syncmaster Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard G15 Mouse G9 PSU BFG Tech 550watt Case Crap stock Dell Cooling Side panel open on case, and a box fan blowing in. Hard Drives 300gig Western Digital Internet Speed Bike Messenger |
29 Jun 2009
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#9 | | Windows 7 RC - 7100 64bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 Hey Static
I am assuming you dont want to install win 7 on your dad (and other comps). If they were all on win 7 you could run homegroup and password the group logon.
Ken
My dad's such a little girl. Trust me. Ive been trying to convince him to let me install windows7. He's too old school for that? I might just do it anyways and if it works tell em to shut it lol | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 RC - 7100 64bit CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 x2 4800+ 2.50Ghz Dual Core Motherboard Hewlett Packard Memory 4 gig Kingston DDR2 Graphics Card XFX Nvidia GeForce GTS 250 Sound Card na Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung LCD Syncmaster Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard G15 Mouse G9 PSU BFG Tech 550watt Case Crap stock Dell Cooling Side panel open on case, and a box fan blowing in. Hard Drives 300gig Western Digital Internet Speed Bike Messenger |
29 Jun 2009
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#10 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |
home networking 
Quote: Originally Posted by Static God I love these forums. Even if we don't end up fixing anything. The speedy responses, the self-less attempts to just help someone in need. Very Appreciated fellas and ladies.
I'll try a few of these examples and see if I can troubleshoot it.
and to clarify some other stuff. What is the standard order of operations? It should go something like...
Web Browser of Router changes Passkey Yes
Save and Close web browser on computer 2. not critical
Unplug router and turn off computer 1. NO if you unplug router password (passkey) will revert to stock
Plug in router. still no
Turn on computer 1.Ok
Enter passkey
Profit?????? Here is what I would do
change encryption to wep and enter passkey
save passkey and exit routers page
reboot pc and attempt to connect. When negotiation fisinsh it will ask you for password. enter it. If ok goto next computer. repeat.
If not successful check passkey on router and try again.
Hopefully that should do it.
If not Im leaving a browser window open
Ken | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up Need help with a Home Network problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:31 AM. | |