| Windows 7: XP can't see Windows 7 in network places |
09 Jul 2009
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XP can't see Windows 7 in network places I have two computers. I'll call them "mine" and "his".
"mine" has both Vista and Windows 7 installed (dual boot), "his" has XP Home.
When I boot "mine" into Vista, the networking works perfectly. Vista and XP can see files and printers and all is great.
When I boot "mine" into Windows 7, I can see "his" computer and access his files and his printer. However "his" computer doesn't even see "mine" show up in My Network Places.
I've checked the workgroup in Windows 7 and it's the correct name.
I've gone to the Network and Sharing Center in Win 7 and set my Network to "Home network".
I played briefly with the "HomeGroup" thing in Win 7 until I reached the point where it said it only worked for computers running Win 7. However it does says HomeGroup: Joined (and it appears that I've joined a HomeGroup).
So now what? Why can't XP see the Windows 7 computer? | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7, XP CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Motherboard eVGA nForce 780i Memory Corsair 4GB Graphics Card eVGA GeForce 9800GT Monitor(s) Displays dual 19" LCD PSU Corsair 750W Case Lian Li PC-61 Hard Drives Seagate 500GB SATA (boot drive)
Western Digital 1T (for data) |
09 Jul 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Kuala Kangsar |
try go into the Network and Sharing Center...then choose Homegroup and Sharing Option. Try turn on the network discovery setting. See this --> Vista Network Discovery - Setting Network Locations | Windows Server Training | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Made Model OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E4700 2.66Ghz Motherboard Asus P5GC-MX/GBL Memory Kingston Value RAM KVR667 DDR2 4GB Graphics Card Gigabyte GeForce 8800GT NX88T512HP Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays BenQ G700A PSU Huntkey V-Power 550w Case Powerlogic Quatro 200 Cooling Evercool Fox-2 Hard Drives Seagate 160GB SATA
Maxtor 160GB SATA |
09 Jul 2009
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#3 | | |
Have you tried using search for networked computers in XP? How to search for a computer on the network in Windows XP
Can you ping the Windows 7 PC from the XP machine?
Can you access the Windows 7 computer by typing its IP address in XP's explorer address bar?
Open Windows Explorer on XP and type in the address bar...
(Example if your Windows 7 PC's local network IP address is 192.168.1.2, you would type): ^^^Replace with YOUR Windows 7 Local Network IP Address
Another way is entering the Windows 7 pc name like this:
Example if your Windows 7 PC was named "Windows7": | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number POS OS OS3.5 CPU celery Motherboard Good Question ...Unknown Memory memory never forgets Graphics Card OB Sound Card OB Monitor(s) Displays HUGE Screen Resolution 168000000x105000000 Keyboard OB Mouse mouse PSU OEM 65watt Case N/A Cooling OB Hard Drives full Internet Speed 1 Trillion MBps Other Info Still An Awesome Forum! |
09 Jul 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 7264x64(main), 7260x86(secendary), XP SP3 Triple Boot Amman, Jordan |
goto his pc, goto Start-Run, type "\\mine" ( assuming your computer's name is mine ) and then it should open the shared forlders on your computer.
if it doesn't work, you need to check if you can ping it like OEM said... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number home made OS Windows 7 7264x64(main), 7260x86(secendary), XP SP3 Triple Boot CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.8Mhz Motherboard Intel G33 express chipset Memory 2GB DD2 667 Graphics Card Intel(R) 82G33 Graphics and Memory Controller Hub Sound Card Realtek Built into the G31 Monitor(s) Displays 19" Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Genius Mouse Logitech Case Gigabyte SETTO Hard Drives 320GB SATA (Main), 160GB IDE (Backup) Internet Speed 1MB Download, 128k Upload |
10 Jul 2009
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#5 | | |
Thanks you for all the suggestions. Here's what happened when I tried them all:
First, on Windows 7:
Network discovery was already on
File and printer sharing was already on
Public folder sharing was already on
On the XP machine:
I could successfully ping the windows 7 machine
If I did start->run \\mine or if I put \\192.168.1.107 in the URL in IE I got a box that popped up looking for a username and password for my windows 7 machine.
I was not able to log into the windows 7 machine however. I do not have a password set up on either of the machines and when I put my windows 7 username in but left the password blank, it gave me a Logon Failure: User account restriction error and said blank passwords are not permitted.
The way my machines are set up, neither my husband nor I uses a password. And we only have one account on each machine set up as an administrator account. I do not want to have multiple accounts per machine. I have a second drive on my computer in which we store all our data. My husband backs up his data onto that same drive. Therefore it's really important that he be able to access it. I do have sharing turned on for that drive and have set the permissions for Everyone to have full access.
So, now what do I do?
The windows 7 machine still does not show up in My Network Places on XP but obviously it has some knowledge that the machine exists.
I really don't want to set up passwords. For us, that's an annoying waste of time.
Many thanks again for the advice. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7, XP CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Motherboard eVGA nForce 780i Memory Corsair 4GB Graphics Card eVGA GeForce 9800GT Monitor(s) Displays dual 19" LCD PSU Corsair 750W Case Lian Li PC-61 Hard Drives Seagate 500GB SATA (boot drive)
Western Digital 1T (for data) |
13 Jul 2009
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#6 | | |
HEy
Im having a very similar situation
I have a 7 machine with a homegroup and my t400 running XP.
My T400 xp box is able to see my 7 Machine. I can acces some public folders ect. However my 7 machine will not see my xp box. Every now and again my 7 machine will show the xp machine name T_400 in network in explorer but when i click on it it asks for a user name and password. But it denies access when you use the the user name and password for the t400. I am the only user profile and it is set up as admin. I even tryed turning off the firewall on the T400 xp box.
I was able to ping both machines back and forth.
Useing a run command ( \\MachinenameC$) did not work as well. Gave me a DNS error
Any thoughts?
Is there a problem with 7 and xp connectivity? | My System Specs | | |
13 Jul 2009
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate Houston, Texas |
@Deb27 and Automag:Turn on guest account on the windows 7 machine. You can do this as well to make sure the permissions are accurate.
Download the following and install to the Windows 7 machine.
Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit Tools http://files.getdropbox.com/u/976813/rktools.exe
after installation is complete, click on: Start, All Programs, Windows Resource Kit Tools, Command Shell
Then enter the following commands. (Attention: they are case sensitive.)
net user guest /active:yes
ntrights +r SeNetworkLogonRight -u Guest
ntrights -r SeDenyNetworkLogonRight -u Guest
The first command enables network access for Guest, the two subsequent ones change two different policies to allow network access for Guest. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Gigabyte OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Intel Core(TM)2 Quad- Q9550, 2.83GHz Motherboard G31M-ES2L Memory 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD4600 Sound Card On Board: Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2223W, Acer AL1916 Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050, 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Microsoft Laser 6000 Mouse Logitech Optical Trackman PSU 600W Case Cooler Master Hard Drives 160GB
350GB
250GB
250GB Internet Speed 1.5MB Other Info I am also running a quasar gamatron flux capacitor with twin pulse tronic phasers......jk, I have no such stuff. |
13 Jul 2009
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#8 | | windows 7 RTM x64 michigan (metro detroit area) |
By doing what "zay" says you are opening your computer up, if anyone gets onto your network they will have full access without you knowing about it. You would be much better off to just use a password.
There is a reason the GUEST account comes DISABLED by default, if not used properly its a huge security hole. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Black_Box (homebuilt) OS windows 7 RTM x64 CPU Phenom II 965 Quad Core 3.4Ghz Motherboard Asus M4A79T Deluxe Memory Mushkin Blackline 8GB (4x2gb) Graphics Card XFX Radeon 5970 Black Edition Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WPF-main Dell E248WFP-secondary Screen Resolution 1920x1200-main 1920x1200-secondary Keyboard Logitech MX 5500 wireless keyboard Mouse Razor Copperhead PSU XFX 850w Black Edition (Modular) Case Mountian Mods H2go Cooling CoolITSystems ECO A.L.C. Hard Drives OCZ Vertex Limited Edition 100GB (OS)
x1 WD Black Edition 500GB drive (Storage) Internet Speed 16Mb down/2Mb up Wowway Cable Internet |
13 Jul 2009
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate Houston, Texas |
In the past I offered the option to just create a user account with a password on the Windows 7, and use that as the account to log on with, (that is what I did), but they did not want that. That is why I offered the next option. I know the ramifications of my prior solution, but I was just offering what they wanted. My apologies for that. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Gigabyte OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Intel Core(TM)2 Quad- Q9550, 2.83GHz Motherboard G31M-ES2L Memory 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD4600 Sound Card On Board: Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2223W, Acer AL1916 Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050, 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Microsoft Laser 6000 Mouse Logitech Optical Trackman PSU 600W Case Cooler Master Hard Drives 160GB
350GB
250GB
250GB Internet Speed 1.5MB Other Info I am also running a quasar gamatron flux capacitor with twin pulse tronic phasers......jk, I have no such stuff. |
13 Jul 2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64, Orlando |
They will all "see" each other using the old "workgroup" setup. As you have discovered, Homegroup will not resolve the issue and Network discovery is limited. While I'm not sure about the security risks of the "Workgroup" setup (I'm sure someone here will say what they are and how to work around them) it is a sure way for "mine" and "his" to get along. I have an XP machine, an XP and 7 dual boot, a 7 machine and a Freenas server networked this way and everyone plays well together... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HTPC OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64, CPU E5200 Motherboard EVGA 730i Memory 4GB Nvidia 6400 Graphics Card EVGA8500GT + Onboard Sound Card Onboard S/Pdif to Sony STR DG710 Monitor(s) Displays Bravia 40" LCD Screen Resolution 1080p Keyboard BTC 9019URF, URC RF200 Remote Mouse Integrated joystick PSU Ultra LSP 550w Case Thermaltake Bach with Pinnacle ir reciever in display window Hard Drives WD Black250g Sata Internet Speed depends on the state of the dilithium crystal Other Info Workstation: Thermaltake Shark Dual Boot XP Pro, Windows 7 Home Premiumx64, 6GB Corsair 6400, Same Board and Processor as HTPC, WD Black 250GB(XP), WD Blue 250GB(7x64), 2x WDBlue 500GB
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