| Windows 7: Setting up a second router as a wireless access point |
26 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit 446 posts Peterborough, England |
Setting up a second router as a wireless access point I live in the UK and use Sky as my ISP.
The wireless router they supply is OK as far as the internet side of things is concerned, but for a good wireless connection to my wife's laptop in the next room, it sucks.
I have a spare Netgear DG834N Wireless ADSL2 modem router and was going to use this instead of my Sky router in an effort to improve the wireless range. Unfortunately, Sky's T's & C's insist that using a different router to the one they supplied could result in my internet service being withdrawn.
In an effort to prevent people using a third-party router, Sky have encrypted theirs with a username and password (not the username and password used to logon for e-mail etc) that can be retrieved with a hack, but I prefer not to go down that route.
What I would like to do is use the Sky router to handle the internet side of things, and then use my Netgear router as a wireless access point to give us better wireless coverage around the house.
Is this possible and if so, how do I go about it? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
26 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 1,300 posts Northamptonshire , England |
You could use your Router as a "Repeater" However Skys router may not support it Multi Router Network - Configure
Josh | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i5 2400 @ 3.10GHz Motherboard Foxconn H67MP-S/-V/H67MP Memory 8.0GB DDR3 @ 665MHz (2GBx4) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (Sapphire/PCPartner) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays AOC 2243W & SMB1930NW Screen Resolution 1440x900 & 1920x1080 Keyboard Dell Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse R.A.T 07 Gaming Mouse Case Novatech Night Cooling Fan Hard Drives 977GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Drive (SATA)
250GB WD iSCSI attatched Drive Internet Speed Download: 10 Mbps Ping: 30ms Upload: 0.81 Mbps Browser Google Chrome Other Info Optiarc DVD RW AD-5260S ATA Device |
26 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit 446 posts Peterborough, England |
Thanks for the link Josh, it may be worth a try as my computer has both an ethernet and wireless adapter. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
26 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 1,300 posts Northamptonshire , England |
No Problem - Just post back your results to let us know if it works or not
Josh | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i5 2400 @ 3.10GHz Motherboard Foxconn H67MP-S/-V/H67MP Memory 8.0GB DDR3 @ 665MHz (2GBx4) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (Sapphire/PCPartner) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays AOC 2243W & SMB1930NW Screen Resolution 1440x900 & 1920x1080 Keyboard Dell Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse R.A.T 07 Gaming Mouse Case Novatech Night Cooling Fan Hard Drives 977GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Drive (SATA)
250GB WD iSCSI attatched Drive Internet Speed Download: 10 Mbps Ping: 30ms Upload: 0.81 Mbps Browser Google Chrome Other Info Optiarc DVD RW AD-5260S ATA Device |
26 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit 446 posts Peterborough, England |
OK, I'll do that. I just need to find the power supply adapter for my Netgear router then I can give it a try. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
26 May 2011
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| | W7 Professional x64 480 posts U.S.A |
If you log into the router, it should show you the username and password required for the PPoE connection to their end of things. I would honestly look into whether or not what they're saying is legal (I know that over here they can't require you use their modem, but they can refuse you tech support if you don't).
Also, if you plug in your spare wireless router and log into the configuration, many of them have an option to turn all the routing functionality off, and use it simply as a wireless access point. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP 6000 Pro Micro Tower OS W7 Professional x64 CPU Core 2 Duo 2.93 Memory 2 GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon 4695 Monitor(s) Displays Two HP 17's Keyboard HP Supplied. Surprisingly nice. Mouse Gateway Mouse from an E2610D Case Tiny. Kinda cute. Hard Drives 150GB Sata Drive Internet Speed 45 mbps |
26 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit 446 posts Peterborough, England |

Quote: Originally Posted by WebMattR If you log into the router, it should show you the username and password required for the PPoE connection to their end of things. I would honestly look into whether or not what they're saying is legal (I know that over here they can't require you use their modem, but they can refuse you tech support if you don't).
Also, if you plug in your spare wireless router and log into the configuration, many of them have an option to turn all the routing functionality off, and use it simply as a wireless access point. As well as a username and password to log into my Sky internet service Sky have also included in the router's firmware another username and password that needs to be extracted if I were to use a third-party router.
As I say, this is written into their contract terms and this was part of the answer I got when I queried why I couldn't use a non-Sky router: The reason we don't support the use of other routers is because we would not be able to provide end to end support with these. The use of other routers haven't been tested and configured to be used with Sky broadband.
In other words they're trying to say that having a uniform router for all their customers enables them to give better customer service, but that is open to question. They did also hint strongly that there would be a distinct lack of technical support if I ditch their router.
Anyway, I'll look into the suggestion you've offered and see if I can make any headway. I'm contracted to Sky until September so I may just bite the bullet and switch to an ISP that doesn't impose any sort of hardware restriction when my year is up. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
27 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 1,300 posts Northamptonshire , England |
The so called "Customer Report" Is because on thier Router there is a special Port which allows Sky to access your Router and change any settings they want if needed be
Other routers cannot do so
Josh | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i5 2400 @ 3.10GHz Motherboard Foxconn H67MP-S/-V/H67MP Memory 8.0GB DDR3 @ 665MHz (2GBx4) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (Sapphire/PCPartner) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays AOC 2243W & SMB1930NW Screen Resolution 1440x900 & 1920x1080 Keyboard Dell Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse R.A.T 07 Gaming Mouse Case Novatech Night Cooling Fan Hard Drives 977GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Drive (SATA)
250GB WD iSCSI attatched Drive Internet Speed Download: 10 Mbps Ping: 30ms Upload: 0.81 Mbps Browser Google Chrome Other Info Optiarc DVD RW AD-5260S ATA Device |
27 May 2011
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit 446 posts Peterborough, England |
Thanks again Josh. In view of what you say I'm just going to soldier on until September, and then switch to another ISP that doesn't have such a constricting and intrusive way of operating. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop Setting up a second router as a wireless access point problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:04 PM. | |