Fixed IP - No network

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  1. Posts : 8
    Win7 32
    Thread Starter
       #11

    Dear ZyanWu,

    First of all. Thank you very much for your help. Much appreciated.

    Just a reminder. When I change from dynamic IP to static IP that is ALL I do.
    No changes in router, network, firewall, etc settings.

    When Win7 PC has 192.168.0.60 /24, everything works (file sharing, internet access, ping - all both ways)
    As the DHCP range starts with 192.168.0.60 that is what I get when dynamic IP is choosen. When I use 192.168.0.60 as a FIXED IP no network but internet.

    When Win7 PC has 192.168.0.20 /24, file sharing only works one way (can see shares but cannot share), internet access, ping only from PC7 to any PC-XP but not from any PC-XP to PC7.
    FIXED IP set. Can not see shares, filesharing not working, Internet access OK.

    Basic network map looks like the picture below.
    Yes. However don't know about god's gift! If I manage to solve this problem we might install and use Win7 on all our PC's

    Enclosing screen shots from DIR-615
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Fixed IP - No network-dir615.jpg   Fixed IP - No network-dir6153.jpg  
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  2. Posts : 94
    Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1
       #12

    Just modify the DHCP pool to start from 192.168.0.20 and make a static binding for the Win7 PC.
    To do that, edit the "DHCP IP Address Range" and set it to start from 192.168.0.20 to 192.168.0.99.
    Check "Enable" in the Add/Edit DHCP Reservations, insert the Win7 PC name in the Computer Name field (WIN7), the IP that you want it to have (192.168.0.20) and the Win7 PC's MAC Address (e0cb4ee605e1) and click SAVE.
    That way Win7 PC will always have the address 192.168.0.20 /24 reserved for your PC.

    DHCP has up to 255 additional options that can be set and are probably required for a full conectivity so, I'm guessing it's a DHCP option (perhaps some NetBIOS setting) that's helping the Win7 PC with sharing or network discovery. (see DHCP codes and options if you want to learn more about DHCP codes).

    And that's it. Set the Win7 PC to get an address via DHCP and it will always get the 192.168.0.20 one. You can also add other PCs there if you want more static bindings.

    (BTW, just for my info. Do you have the same network space reserved for the wired PCs and the wireless PCs? And when you tried to ping Win7 PC from and XP PC, did you use a wired or wireless PC?)
    Last edited by ZyanWu; 09 Aug 2011 at 08:15.
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  3. Posts : 8
    Win7 32
    Thread Starter
       #13

    I know I can circumvent the problem as you describe. However I am still puzzeled by the behaviour of Windows 7 on this item.
    Using a dynamic preferred! IP and set it to fixed just doesn't work! How strange is that?

    The WinXP PC's or the Mac has no reserved IP's on the router and I can set any fixed IP both inside and outside the DHCP range and the full network is accessable by all work stations.

    So no solution so far. I was hoping we could install Windows 7 on the other work stations but for the moment we will stick with WinXP and Mac. We need to have fixed IP's on all PC'c so that portforwarding can be applied without hickups.
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  4. Posts : 94
    Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1
       #14

    I told you, it must be a hidden DHCP code that the router is sending your PC and that's what is helping it with network connectivity.
    If you set the IP manually, that code doesn't get set.

    As I said above, if you use the router to reserve DHCP IPs for clients then the clients you choose will always have the IPs you set in that table (it's EXACTLY like having a static IP, but it's configured in the router).

    Can you tell me what IPs are you using for your wireless network?
    Last edited by ZyanWu; 10 Aug 2011 at 07:55.
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  5. Posts : 8
    Win7 32
    Thread Starter
       #15

    If you set the IP manually, that code doesn't get set
    Is this a bug in Windows 7?

    As I said I can work around the problem, but had hoped it had worked as expected (WinXP and Mac)

    Two wired PC's: 192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.20
    Third PC/Mac (Dual boot) 192.168.0.30
    Two wireless PC's : 192.168.0.40 and 192.168.0.50
    All fixed IP
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  6. Posts : 94
    Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1
       #16

    netsrot said:
    Is this a bug in Windows 7?
    It's not a bug, you just have to set it manually via registry. I don't know which one though.

    netsrot said:
    Two wired PC's: 192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.20
    Third PC/Mac (Dual boot) 192.168.0.30
    Two wireless PC's : 192.168.0.40 and 192.168.0.50
    All fixed IP
    Well, that's a huge problem. Your router shouldn't let you set the same network on 2 different interfaces without bridging them.
    Routing problems occur when you do that. (I'm 95% sure that's the reason why the ping didn't work.)

    For example, if you send a packet to the 192.168.0.0 network, which one will the router use? The wired or the wireless? It can't decide and problems occur.


    LE: Wait a second. You're not trying to set the same IP address (192.168.0.20) for 2 different PCs, are you?
    As I can see from your post, 192.168.0.20 already exists on your network on a WinXP PC.
    Last edited by ZyanWu; 11 Aug 2011 at 06:18.
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  7. Posts : 8
    Win7 32
    Thread Starter
       #17

    LE: Wait a second. You're not trying to set the same IP address (192.168.0.20) for 2 different PCs, are you?
    As I can see from your post, 192.168.0.20 already exists on your network on a WinXP PC
    Of course it is not the same IP on any of the PC's. I think you getting confused.
    I tried Win7 on a spare HDD and put it into the PC that is normally WinXP 192.168.0.20

    One wired PC's WinXP: 192.168.0.10
    Second wired PC WinXP/Win7 tryout 192.168.0.20
    Third PC WinXP/Mac (Dual boot) 192.168.0.30
    Two wireless PC's WinXP : 192.168.0.40 and 192.168.0.50
    With fixed IP at WinXP/Mac configuration. Network/internet accessability.
    With fixed IP at WinXP/Mac/Win7 configuration. Network accessability on WinXP/Mac part. No network access to Windows 7. Internet on all WinXP/Mac/Win7

    It's not a bug, you just have to set it manually via registry. I don't know which one though.
    Who knows about this setting?
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  8. Posts : 94
    Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1
       #18

    Basically, if your wired lan and wireless lan are bridged then your network is fine and everything else's fine. I can't pinpoint the problem.

    I've forwarded your question to Microsoft's Technet forums.
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  9. Posts : 9
    Win 7
       #19

    Still waiting for a solution to this problem, but it looks we are still stuck.

    It's not a bug, you just have to set it manually via registry. I don't know which one though.
    If this is the solution how come nobody comes forward?
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  10. Posts : 13
    Win 7 x64
       #20

    ZyanWu....I was having a smiliar problem where a static IP wouldn't work on my Win 7 Pro machine. You're tip to enable NetBios fixed it.

    Thank you.
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