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Windows 7: Neighbours can see pc and internet contents with network discovery off

23 Jan 2012   #31
bob999

Windows 7 x64/x32
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mgp1964 View Post
I would look for holes in the walls if they are seeing what you are doing .
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I agree!

Just to clarify, Is this a normal house, or are you in Uni halls or something?

You can set mac address filtering on your router which will ensure only network cards you want on your netork will be DHCP'd...?

Also you can switch your router to not broadcast ssid (change it first to something else!) then if they search for networks it wont show up...


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23 Jan 2012   #32
richlust

windows 7 home premium 64bit
 
 

problem is bob when they are hacking my pc i have not even installed the lan drivers or connected it to the internet, plus i am checking the MAC codes on the router status and i cant see a new device or an irregular mac that i dont recognise on my network, its something else they are doing whilst i customise and install the drivers but they could not do it this time when i restarted my pc directly after disabling remote settings and services plus built in admin, its in my home too not networking sharing either
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23 Jan 2012   #33
bob999

Windows 7 x64/x32
 
 

Apologies just read pg3 and realised I repeated what's already been said...

I personally think its highly highly unlikely that your neighbours are actually able to access your pc, unless you have some crazy blackhat living next door!

Personally I'd go and knock on their door and ask them to satisfy my curiousity :-)!
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23 Jan 2012   #34
serpentracer

windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ReviverSoft View Post
Don't forget to install a good Firewall. The good ones can monitor and block incoming/remote connections to the PC.
you don't need any special firewalls. routers and modems have them built in now.
the windows firewall is a waste of resources too.
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23 Jan 2012   #35
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Only if you know what you are doing

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by serpentracer View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ReviverSoft View Post
Don't forget to install a good Firewall. The good ones can monitor and block incoming/remote connections to the PC.
you don't need any special firewalls. routers and modems have them built in now.
the windows firewall is a waste of resources too.
If you have the knowledge/skills required to set up a router firewall correctly, that might be true.
I wouldn't advise "average" users (no offence intended) to turn off their firewalls.

Routers and modems are going to come with generic settings (i.e. access permissions).
They have to work "straight out of the box" (i.e. be easy for unskilled users to operate).

The firewall on a Windows PC will tailor itself, based on the software you have installed.


You should also change, the username and password on your router, for the same reason (generic settings).

Most of them will be set to something like:
  • username: admin
  • password: admin

See this article about malware:
If your PC picks up a virus, whose fault is it? | ZDNet
Quote:
The test involved more than 640 hosts running Windows XP Professional with no third-party applications and with auto-updating disabled. With the Windows firewall turned off, the mean time before a host was compromised was just over 18 hours, with the Conficker worm doing more than its fair share of damage.

...

But once a firewall was turned on—the default configuration for every Windows system shipped in the past seven years—the numbers changed dramatically:
With the firewall enabled, the mean survival time of the Windows XP SP2 systems increased to 336 days. No system with this control enabled was compromised in less than 108 days.
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That study covered Windows XP, but the report notes that the conclusions should apply to Windows Vista and Windows 7 equally well.
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07 Feb 2012   #36
richlust

windows 7 home premium 64bit
 
 

OK folks i know the router i am using is the virgin super hub and the wirless security is set up as WPA auto, i will go home tonight and change it to only WPA2 as clearly my network is not setup securely after reading the WPA artcile you have supplied, thank you. I have however still noticed more than 1 SID number on my laptop with only 1 account setup which i still find strange but i will do my best, i think the firewall options on this router are only on or off no other options, i have installed zonealarm pro firewall and i will create a long password that is random diasble wifi protect setup and see what happens. Lol i know this has been long and painfull but fingers crossed this could be the light at the end of the tunnel :P
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07 Feb 2012   #37
richlust

windows 7 home premium 64bit
 
 

Is it even possible to hide your Mac code from showing up on the device connection status for the router administration? Its just i dont see any foreign Mac codes showing up there
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08 Feb 2012   #38
richlust

windows 7 home premium 64bit
 
 

Ok i think this can be closed now it was set to WPA auto but when i went on last night to change the settings it was WEP TKIP which i did not choose so i changed the access password the SSID name and the Passkey and what do you know as soon as i turned off my wireless i could hear my neighbours talking about what was going on and i think its fair to say now its secure used a 20 digit passkey took it off WPA auto and on WPA2 AES PSK, disabled pin access so the only way is wifi protected setup by pressing the button or the pass phrase key.

Thank you everyone for your help, i now see the error of my ways and will not do it again is it possible to leave a donation for your efforts helping me?

richlust
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08 Feb 2012   #39
2xg

Win7 & Win8 64bit
 
 

Thanks for letting us know that finally you have chosen and secured your network with WPA2.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by richlust View Post
Ok i think this can be closed now it was set to WPA auto but when i went on last night to change the settings it was WEP TKIP which i did not choose so i changed the access password the SSID name and the Passkey and what do you know as soon as i turned off my wireless i could hear my neighbours talking about what was going on and i think its fair to say now its secure used a 20 digit passkey took it off WPA auto and on WPA2 AES PSK, disabled pin access so the only way is wifi protected setup by pressing the button or the pass phrase key.

Thank you everyone for your help, i now see the error of my ways and will not do it again is it possible to leave a donation for your efforts helping me?

richlust
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09 Feb 2012   #40
richlust

windows 7 home premium 64bit
 
 

i dont believe it can somebody check out this screen shot please, i only have 1 admin account on pc and this shows 2 SID's. I did a fresh install last night guest account is disabled just the 1 admin account and 2 users as you can see by the screenshot and i dont know how they are doing it, wireless was not even in use i had turned it off when i installed it this time so its not the network both using ethernet

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