| Windows 7: Why is Windows so bad at networking |
18 Aug 2009
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Why is Windows so bad at networking I have a small three PC home network. Two PC are running Windows 7 and one running Vista.
All three machines have the same homegroup settings. The ability to view machines on the network is very patchy. One machine can see the others, while another machine can only see one other machine. Sometimes machines cannot see any others on the network.
All machines are connected wirelessly with strong signals through a BT 2700HGV Business Hub router. All of the machines can access the internet without problems.
All machines run Eset Smart Security with the Windows firewall is turned off.
Any advice to create a stable network would be appreciated.
The Captain | My System Specs |
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18 Aug 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 7600 [MSDN] Los Angeles |
Have you tried Homegroups over IPv6? Or are you using an old-school IPv4 network?
Btw, welcome to the forums. Asking a question if the form of a troll generally isn't helpful. But since it's your first post, I won't publicly flog you and force you into therapy. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build/Mod OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 7600 [MSDN] CPU Intel QX9650 Extreme 5.0 GHz Motherboard ASUS Rampage Extreme Rev2 Memory 8GB (4x2) Corsair Dominator DDR3 Graphics Card 2x Sapphire Radeon HD4870X2 (QuadFire) Sound Card SupremeFX X-Fi Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP 24" Panel Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU Corsair HX1000 Case CoolerMaster - Cosmos S Cooling Custom Liquid - 320mm rad w/ 3x 80mm fans, CPU/NB/SB Blocks Hard Drives 4x WD Caviar Black 640GB (2TB+ Total)
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18 Aug 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Slog
Any advice to create a stable network would be appreciated.
Hi Captain,
My advice, Stop using the RC (7100) and use the RTM (7600) where all these bugs are fixed and all features are complete and stable
Steven | My System Specs | | |
18 Aug 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by dmex Hi Captain,
My advice, Stop using the RC (7100) and use the RTM (7600) where all these bugs are fixed and all features are complete and stable
Steven Does the RTM allow an 'upgrade' to let me keep all of my programs and settings? | My System Specs | | |
18 Aug 2009
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#5 | | Windows 7 64bit (hopefully) |

Quote: Originally Posted by dmex Hi Captain,
My advice, Stop using the RC (7100) and use the RTM (7600) where all these bugs are fixed and all features are complete and stable
Steven you are kidding about the stable part, right? LOL
Seriously though, a brand new PC, supports Windows 7 per the manufacturer, yet the networking is HORRIBLE, can't keep a connection, etc. I am having to revert back to Vista Business 64 bit b/c Windows 7 in my opinion is a piece of garbage right now.
Hopefully by the time October rolls around, they will have a service pack out to fix the crazy things. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP XW4600 OS Windows 7 64bit (hopefully) CPU Intel® Core™2 Quad Q9300 processor Motherboard Intel® X38 Express chipset Memory 6 GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro NVS 285 Sound Card on board Keyboard HP Mouse HP Case HP Cooling HP Hard Drives 250gig sata Internet Speed 1000/100/10, WIRED Other Info on board NIC Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit |
18 Aug 2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 7600 [MSDN] Los Angeles |

Quote: Originally Posted by dselmeyer you are kidding about the stable part, right? LOL
Seriously though, a brand new PC, supports Windows 7 per the manufacturer, yet the networking is HORRIBLE, can't keep a connection, etc. I am having to revert back to Vista Business 64 bit b/c Windows 7 in my opinion is a piece of garbage right now.
Hopefully by the time October rolls around, they will have a service pack out to fix the crazy things. Well, let's see what we have here...
Remember that public flogging I mentioned earlier? Especially that part about asking for help in the form of a troll?
Strike One.
Secondly, you find yourself among a group of highly knowledgeable people who have been using Windows 7 for over a year, in many cases. Trust me, if there's an issue, it can resolved here. Even your silly and "HORRIBLE" networking issue.
Strike Two.
You're running what can be describe, at best, a very early RC. That is, software that has greatly matured since that inception. Does it occur to you that, perhaps, you're running into issues that have already long been resolved? These "crazy things" you want to point out only exist in your environment. The rest of us have installed countless builds since 7100 and matured along with the OS.
Strike Three. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build/Mod OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 7600 [MSDN] CPU Intel QX9650 Extreme 5.0 GHz Motherboard ASUS Rampage Extreme Rev2 Memory 8GB (4x2) Corsair Dominator DDR3 Graphics Card 2x Sapphire Radeon HD4870X2 (QuadFire) Sound Card SupremeFX X-Fi Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP 24" Panel Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU Corsair HX1000 Case CoolerMaster - Cosmos S Cooling Custom Liquid - 320mm rad w/ 3x 80mm fans, CPU/NB/SB Blocks Hard Drives 4x WD Caviar Black 640GB (2TB+ Total)
MegaRAID SATA 300-8X Controller
2x RiDATA SataII SSD 64GB (Raid10)
1x LG Blu-ray read/write
1x Phillips LightScribe DVD read/write Internet Speed Fractional T1 - Shared Other Info OC'd to 5.0GHz @ 50c under full load |
18 Aug 2009
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#7 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Trinidad and Tobago |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DELL VOSTRO 3750 OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU 2nd generation Intel Core i5‐2450M (2C/4T, 2.5GHz, 3M Memory 6GB DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 525M (128 bit), 1GB Grpahics Monitor(s) Displays 17.3 inch High Definition LED Display with anti Screen Resolution (1600 x 900) Hard Drives 500GB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive |
18 Aug 2009
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#8 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |
Capt S
Hi and welcome. I realize you are new here and jusst wanted to give you a heads up. You would get alot more feedback if you hadn't started with why is win 7 so bad at networking. I have experience in both ends of the spectrum. A small homegroup (5 computers) and a huge workgroup/domain. If you really look at win 7 network problems here you will see that most are from ppl who are relatively new to the OS.
Is win 7 networking perfect, nope but its not even released yet.
Ken | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
18 Aug 2009
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#9 | | Window 7 build 7600, Xp pro(VM) West Bengal |

Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Slog All three machines have the same homegroup settings. The ability to view machines on the network is very patchy. One machine can see the others, while another machine can only see one other machine. I dont think vista supports homegroup,  Only windows 7 supports Homegroup.
As the three machines can access Internet then your network connection is ok.
The problem is that one of our machine is running vista it is obvious that the vista machine machine will not see other two Windows 7 machine and the other two machine also cannot see vista machine.
Sourav. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom made OS Window 7 build 7600, Xp pro(VM) CPU Amd Athlon 2000 xp+ Motherboard Asus x series Memory kingstone(1gb+256MB) Graphics Card Nvdia 6200(256 mb+255mb(shared)) Sound Card soundmax Monitor(s) Displays Lg Flatron w1943 Screen Resolution 1360x768 Keyboard i-ball Mouse i-ball Case i-ball Hard Drives segate 80GB Internet Speed 256kbps up and 256 kbps down |
18 Aug 2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Trinidad and Tobago |
You need to put the machines in WORKGROUP.. not HOMEGROUP.. it's a difference.
Like my colleague above mentioned, HOMEGROUP only works on Windows 7. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DELL VOSTRO 3750 OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU 2nd generation Intel Core i5‐2450M (2C/4T, 2.5GHz, 3M Memory 6GB DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 525M (128 bit), 1GB Grpahics Monitor(s) Displays 17.3 inch High Definition LED Display with anti Screen Resolution (1600 x 900) Hard Drives 500GB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive Why is Windows so bad at networking problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:39 AM. | |