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Windows 7: Accessing computers through network

31 Mar 2012   #11
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

There are also some sleep settings on the adaptor itself, you can access them through Device Manager >Network adaptor>properties> power management tab.

Updating the firmware on the router or working with it's configuration settings might also be helpful.

You might even try looking for a more updated driver version for the network adaptors on the problem machines.


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31 Mar 2012   #12
kevindd992002

Windows 7 Ultimate x6
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
There are also some sleep settings on the adaptor itself, you can access them through Device Manager >Network adaptor>properties> power management tab.

Updating the firmware on the router or working with it's configuration settings might also be helpful.

You might even try looking for a more updated driver version for the network adaptors on the problem machines.
All power management settings of both network adapters are disabled.

Firmware of router is latest. Tried with a different router, even with a pfsense box, same result.

Drivers for both adapters are also latest. I'm an updated kind of guy.

I don't think this has something to do with the network adapter or the router. This has to do something with OS settings that we still can't determine right now. What happens is that when I double-click on the Computer-name icon in Network is that it initially attempts to input a blank username and blank password because the specific computer that is being accessed is asking for it (even though password protected sharing is turned off). This causes the delay.

As I've mentioned above, creating a matched username and password for both computers solved the problem but this is not, shall we say, a good fix. So I think we can rule out Hard Disk Delay, Network Adapter Power Management, and driver versions here.
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31 Mar 2012   #13
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Because this seems to be a password delay maybe relaxing the Security of the network drive will help.

Have you tried going into the Security tab of the problem drives and adding "Everyone" to the security permissions list?

I have a step by step for this but I'm pretty sure you can figure it out.
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31 Mar 2012   #14
kevindd992002

Windows 7 Ultimate x6
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
Because this seems to be a password delay maybe relaxing the Security of the network drive will help.

Have you tried going into the Security tab of the problem drives and adding "Everyone" to the security permissions list?

I have a step by step for this but I'm pretty sure you can figure it out.
Yes, I set Everyone to Read/Write. I even tried turning off Windows Firewall.
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31 Mar 2012   #15
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

So you set access to everyone on both the Security tab and also on the Sharing tab?

Is this an all Windows 7 machines network? Do you have a Home group set up on these machines?
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31 Mar 2012   #16
kegobeer

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Do all machines belong to the same workgroup? Do they all have the exact same advanced sharing options set?

BTW - it's completely unnecessary to disable the Windows firewall. You should enable it again.
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31 Mar 2012   #17
kevindd992002

Windows 7 Ultimate x6
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
So you set access to everyone on both the Security tab and also on the Sharing tab?

Is this an all Windows 7 machines network? Do you have a Home group set up on these machines?
I only set it up under the Sharing tab. No Homegroup set up on any machine on my network.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kegobeer View Post
Do all machines belong to the same workgroup? Do they all have the exact same advanced sharing options set?

BTW - it's completely unnecessary to disable the Windows firewall. You should enable it again.
Yes, they belong to the same workgroup "MSHOME". And yes they have the exact same advanced sharing options set because "Public folder" sharing is set to Enabled under Advanced Sharing settings.

No, I just tried disabling it for the sake of troubleshooting. It is already enabled now.
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31 Mar 2012   #18
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
So you set access to everyone on both the Security tab and also on the Sharing tab?

Is this an all Windows 7 machines network? Do you have a Home group set up on these machines?
I only set it up under the Sharing tab. No Homegroup set up on any machine on my network.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kegobeer View Post
Do all machines belong to the same workgroup? Do they all have the exact same advanced sharing options set?

BTW - it's completely unnecessary to disable the Windows firewall. You should enable it again.
Yes, they belong to the same workgroup "MSHOME". And yes they have the exact same advanced sharing options set because "Public folder" sharing is set to Enabled under Advanced Sharing settings.

No, I just tried disabling it for the sake of troubleshooting. It is already enabled now.
You will need to set those permission's on the "Security tab" as I mentioned earlier. Directions for this below. This should help with the password problem although I'm still not sure why it keeps asking for one.

To share the entire drive:
Open My Computer -> right click Local Disk D or which ever drive letter your drive is using -> select Properties -> select Security tab -> click Edit button -> click Add button -> enter the name of the User you want to set Security permissions (it is the same user name you've set the sharing permissions for, ex. Everyone will set the read permissions to every user. Put check marks in the boxes for full access and control -> click OK hit apply-> select the desired permissions -> click OK -> wait while permissions are set -> and your Done.

You will also need to use the Advanced sharing tab Sharing>Advanced put a check in the box to share the drive, then click on the permissions tab and "add Everyone" then use the check boxes to allow Everyone full access. Hit the apply button on both windows.


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31 Mar 2012   #19
kevindd992002

Windows 7 Ultimate x6
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
So you set access to everyone on both the Security tab and also on the Sharing tab?

Is this an all Windows 7 machines network? Do you have a Home group set up on these machines?
I only set it up under the Sharing tab. No Homegroup set up on any machine on my network.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kegobeer View Post
Do all machines belong to the same workgroup? Do they all have the exact same advanced sharing options set?

BTW - it's completely unnecessary to disable the Windows firewall. You should enable it again.
Yes, they belong to the same workgroup "MSHOME". And yes they have the exact same advanced sharing options set because "Public folder" sharing is set to Enabled under Advanced Sharing settings.

No, I just tried disabling it for the sake of troubleshooting. It is already enabled now.
You will need to set those permission's on the "Security tab" as I mentioned earlier. Directions for this below. This should help with the password problem although I'm still not sure why it keeps asking for one.

To share the entire drive:
Open My Computer -> right click Local Disk D or which ever drive letter your drive is using -> select Properties -> select Security tab -> click Edit button -> click Add button -> enter the name of the User you want to set Security permissions (it is the same user name you've set the sharing permissions for, ex. Everyone will set the read permissions to every user. Put check marks in the boxes for full access and control -> click OK hit apply-> select the desired permissions -> click OK -> wait while permissions are set -> and your Done.

You will also need to use the Advanced sharing tab Sharing>Advanced put a check in the box to share the drive, then click on the permissions tab and "add Everyone" then use the check boxes to allow Everyone full access. Hit the apply button on both windows.
Thanks. I will try this.

Why didn't I need to do all of this with the other PCs when their security settings are all default as well? When I enable Public folder sharing, it should be as easy as looking for the PC under Network, right?
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31 Mar 2012   #20
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post

I only set it up under the Sharing tab. No Homegroup set up on any machine on my network.



Yes, they belong to the same workgroup "MSHOME". And yes they have the exact same advanced sharing options set because "Public folder" sharing is set to Enabled under Advanced Sharing settings.

No, I just tried disabling it for the sake of troubleshooting. It is already enabled now.
You will need to set those permission's on the "Security tab" as I mentioned earlier. Directions for this below. This should help with the password problem although I'm still not sure why it keeps asking for one.

To share the entire drive:
Open My Computer -> right click Local Disk D or which ever drive letter your drive is using -> select Properties -> select Security tab -> click Edit button -> click Add button -> enter the name of the User you want to set Security permissions (it is the same user name you've set the sharing permissions for, ex. Everyone will set the read permissions to every user. Put check marks in the boxes for full access and control -> click OK hit apply-> select the desired permissions -> click OK -> wait while permissions are set -> and your Done.

You will also need to use the Advanced sharing tab Sharing>Advanced put a check in the box to share the drive, then click on the permissions tab and "add Everyone" then use the check boxes to allow Everyone full access. Hit the apply button on both windows.
Thanks. I will try this.

Why didn't I need to do all of this with the other PCs when their security settings are all default as well? When I enable Public folder sharing, it should be as easy as looking for the PC under Network, right?
Like a mentioned earlier, I'm not sure why you are getting this password/delay problem but if it has anything to do with permission's or security this should fix the problem.

Don't forget to turn off the password protected sharing option in both Home and Work networks in the Advanced Sharing Settings. There is like two different sets of options for both of those.

I'm not sure why you need to enable the Public file sharing option unless you need to share folders or files with the Public on an open network.
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