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Windows 7: Remote Virtual Machine

31 Mar 2012   #11
geekman2

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Thanks I'll try that out when I get the chance, but one question this setup wouldn't work if the laptops were out of my network would it?


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31 Mar 2012   #12
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

There are ways to allow the laptops connect from almost any connection to the internet. Please tell us operating system the laptops are running and then maybe we can make a suggestion in that arena.
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31 Mar 2012   #13
canberraplanner

Australian Capital Territory
 
 

So even if you have a Win7 Ultimate 64bit licence, you need to purchase another licence again to host a virtual machine :-(
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31 Mar 2012   #14
geekman2

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

The laptops are running Ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10
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31 Mar 2012   #15
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by canberraplanner View Post
So if I try to install Office and Win7 on a virtual PC hosted on my fully licensed host PC, with my existing keys, I will get an activation error?
A single license copy of Windows 7, gives you the right to run the copy of the software on one PC only. Technically, your virtual machine is going to appear as a different machine and thus technically would require it's own license as the hardware that is virtualized will be different than your actual host computer.

With respect to Office, you are allowed to install Office on a desktop and a portable computer. So, technically it can be installed twice. However, running on a virtual machine isn't really considered a portable computer, so technically I think you would be in violation of the license agreement.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
An alternative would be to just enable Remote Desktop on the good computer and have the netbook and notebook RDT in as needed. The problem is when they connect, you lose control of your desktop.
True, but if you were running 2 Windows machines as virtual machines, you would RDP into each one of them at a time and thus it would work.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by canberraplanner View Post
So even if you have a Win7 Ultimate 64bit licence, you need to purchase another licence again to host a virtual machine :-(
Yes, this is correct. However, with Windows 7 professional or Ultimate, you get a free license for Windows XP Mode. So, you can download XP mode and run that free of charge as long as your host is Windows 7 or above.

Just because a virtual machine is virtaul, doesn't mean that you don't need a license. A virtual machine is a runnable OS just like any other. It requires appropriate licensing.
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31 Mar 2012   #16
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

I use LogMeIn's Hamachi, but I mostly deal with Windows. Glance at haguichi for Hamachi on those laptops or look into remobo. It is my understanding that there is software available for those laptops that will let them connect to the MS Windows' Remote Desktop service as well as VNC software.

There are situations were the VPN tools cannot connect in a useful way. So I tend to install multiple ways to connect - mainly so that I can attempt to resolve any connectivity issues with my preferred method of connecting. I use TeamViewer and LogMeIn Free - which do not require a VPN connection. And MS's Remote Desktop Connection (RDC or RDP for short) and UltraVNC - both connect directly to LogMeIn Hamachi's static IP.

As I understand it, these VPN IP addresses are not able to be scanned for open ports from outside of the VPN network - so there is no issue with automated attempts at getting in via RDP or VNC and this RDP vulnerability was a non-issue from outside of your LAN or VPN. Having static VPN IPs solves some issues with remote connectivity and you don't have to open/forward ports on routers. I personally like static IP addresses inside a LAN too, but that is just me.

You should set the Windows firewall on each VM (and the host computer) to restrict VNC and Remote Desktop connections to a list of static IP addresses within your VPN network. You can also add the IP range for your LAN in case there is an issue with one of the VPN tools. e.g. VM2 is not joining the VPN. You can remote into VM1 or the host computer and then "remote" from there into VM2 using its LAN IP address or computer name to see if you can resolve the VPN client issue.

For one group that I support, I setup a rather generic headless file server. On the desktop of that file server is a folder containing VNC shortcuts to each computer on their LAN. If I cannot remote into a particular computer, I can usually remote into the file server and "VNC" to the other computer to restart it. Then remote into the desired computer directly. At times, it is the file server that I cannot connect to, but if I can remote into any other computer inside that LAN, I can try to "remote" into the file server from there. But there are times when I just have to get into the car and go replace a PSU :-(

There will be a slight performance hit when using a VPN tool for remote control vs, a direct connection; but for most setups, you will not notice it. I'm active in LogMeIn's forum for Hamachi users and a few people see terrible lags on pretty decent connections to the net. I've never experienced such an issue.
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31 Mar 2012   #17
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

...and if your users can stand it, adjust the VMs to have a simple user interface:

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01 Apr 2012   #18
canberraplanner

Australian Capital Territory
 
 

How much is Windows 7 for business? I would like to run a second hosted secure OS for my financial planning business that can be independently audited for security standard compliance.
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01 Apr 2012   #19
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

If you are going to pay some entity for auditing services, then you might want to start by asking them what operating system they suggest. Perhaps they already have this answered in a FAQ on their website. W7 Pro is probably good enough, but they might want some other flavor.

As far as cost goes, Microsoft Store Online But if you are buying a new computer too, then the OEM versions of the W7 OS are much less.

Edit: W8 was supposed to read W7
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01 Apr 2012   #20
canberraplanner

Australian Capital Territory
 
 

I thought newer would cost more? Intriguing...

Is it possible to get a free if not cheap hardware assisted virtual environment like Citrix?
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