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Windows 7: Win7 machine becomes invisible to XP laptop after sharing via network

03 Apr 2012   #1
Jaybee

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
 
 
Win7 machine becomes invisible to XP laptop after sharing via network

This is just plain weird...! Here is what is happening. I have three PCs all on the same MS Home network, not password protected. Connected via Netgear router

Windows 7 x64 machine 'A' - Ethernet
Windows 7 x64 machine 'B' - Wireless only
Winxows XP SP3 laptop - Ethernet

Win7 'A' has a range of shared folders the other two can access at will throughout the day.

I can spend all day randomly accessing Win7 'A's shared folders from the XP laptop and everything is working fine. BUT If Win7 'B' accesses the shared folders on Win7 'A' then trying to access afterwards from XP laptop fails with a "//Win7APC is unavailable, contact network admin etc. etc." fault pop-up.

Doesn't matter what I do, the laptop just won't connect after Win7 'B' has been accessing 'A's files.

Looking the other way (once this fault occurs) Win7 'A' can see and access the Shared folder on the XP laptop and write and modify anything within fine..

Only solution I have found is to reboot Win7 'A' then all is well, the laptop can access again as normal.

So Win7 'B' accessing the Win7 'A' files seems to be causing the loss of access to the laptop. I should add that the accesses are not simultaneous. I have tried this with the laptop idle while 'B' accesses 'A' and then once 'B' is finished and not connected I try to access once more from the laptop - it produces the same fault. Only the rebooting of 'A' will cure it.

Any ideas why a simple folder access from another machine on the network should stop the Laptop from accessing the network? I am all out of ideas!

Cheers


J


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03 Apr 2012   #2
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Have you tried adding Everyone to the Security settings tab on the problem machine?

I have directions for that if you want to try.
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03 Apr 2012   #3
Jaybee

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
 
 

Hi!

By 'problem machine' do you mean Win7 'A' that holds the shared folders? If so, yes, all folders it shares are shared with 'everyone' in security settings tab, no password protection.
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03 Apr 2012   #4
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

There is also a sharing tab but the security tab might also require an adjustment.

Other than that I would suspect the A/V software or a third party firewall program.
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03 Apr 2012   #5
Jaybee

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
 
 

Thanks, I've taken a look.

The security tab says "Everyone" and the sharing tab says "Shared". There is an advanced sharing tab showing which doesn't seem to have anything (i.e. its blank) once I click it.

Should I add an "everyone" in there too?

p.s. no external firewall. Just Windows firewall (on) and AVG (on)
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03 Apr 2012   #6
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Yes on the sharing tab of the actual drive, use the Advanced setting and set Everyone with full control.

On the Security tab of the actual drive, use the Edit button, and the Add button to add Everyone to where it says "Enter the Objects Name to Select" type Everyone there then add the check marks for full control, hit apply then ok.
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03 Apr 2012   #7
Jaybee

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
 
 

OK those are both in place.

"Everyone" Full control on Sharing Tab and the same on Security tab. I'm sure this is how I had it set up as they were there in place when I just checked.

Win7 'B' has accessed the shared folder in last 15 mins and now, predictably, the XP Laptop is saying shared folder is "not accessible".

The sharing is 100% reliable all day unless Win 7 'B' accesses Win 7 'A's shared folder - then this happens....! Really appreciate you trying to help. It's a weird one for sure.

Jaybee
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03 Apr 2012   #8
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Is this XP home or XP pro? If it's the Pro version have you tried turning off simple file sharing? Have you tried running the network wizard on the XP machine?

Have you tried changing the encryption in the Advanced Sharing settings on the Win 7 machines to use 40 or 56 bit encryption? Have you tried to enable the Public file sharing options?
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03 Apr 2012   #9
Jaybee

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
 
 

Just to reiterate:

The FOLDER is shared to Everyone and has the security settings in the folder set to Everyone

The DRIVE (parent drive of the folder that is shared) is security set to Everyone, full control. The whole DRIVE isn't shared.

Still no joy with those settings though, yet a reboot of Win 7 A will allow Laptop to see everything and work as normal...
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03 Apr 2012   #10
Jaybee

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
Is this XP home or XP pro? If it's the Pro version have you tried turning off simple file sharing? Have you tried running the network wizard on the XP machine?

Have you tried changing the encryption in the Advanced Sharing settings on the Win 7 machines to use 40 or 56 bit encryption? Have you tried to enable the Public file sharing options?
Hi,

Laptop is XP Home SP3 (all up to date via Win updates).
When it's connecting fine (i.e. up until Win 7 'B' decides to access the network shared folder on Win 7 'A') the XP network wizard finds the network. I have all the drives I need to access on Win 7 'A' listed in "My Network places' fine - and 100% access until 'B' appears on the scene then it can't connect to any of them.

Encryption is set to 40/56
Public sharing is on
Password protection is off

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