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Windows 7: Do I need a workstation or server?

08 Apr 2012   #11
Coram Daes

W7x64P
 
 

Hmm, that Peachtree problem seems similar to a Navision issue we had at our finance department. Something about the database not being indexed or whatever it was. It did the same, you entered some numbers and it stalled waiting for database response. I will ask for details and get back.


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08 Apr 2012   #12
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
just to add my two bits

If the workstation is powerful enough why not consider installing something like VMware workstation on it and set up a VIRTUAL SERVER.

With Workstation version 8 you can run the Virtual server in the background so no user actually needs to be logged in to the workstation - they can of course access the Virtual Server.

This is VERY easy to set up for a smallish organisation. And you CAN use the Workstation too as a PC.

(Things like Esxi or Hyper-V are great but need a bit of knowledge to get going).

In general I'm of the opinion anyway that pretty well ALL servers should be Virtual Machines these days. - Flexible, can be moved at will and Scaleable as your company grows.

Cheers
jimbo
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08 Apr 2012   #13
Dave Atkin

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Check your anti-virus settings and make sure that real time protection isnt scanning the Sage files. Its a common problem. Maybe worth disabling your anti-virus just as a test - Re-enable afterwards.


The workstation machines seams well backed up from what you have said (providing the backup is being taken off site as well). I dont think changing to a server will fix any problems...



Dave
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08 Apr 2012   #14
0pTicaL

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

@ Coram Daes Thanks, that would greatly be appreciated. There was one tech support person from Peachtree that made some sense. He recommended my client to close his current company and create a new company and import all this records from his current company to the new company. His current company hasn't been closed for almost a decade.

@ jimbo45 That's a good suggestion, I'll have to do some homework on VMware as I'm not too familiar with anything virtual at the moment. As of now I don't want to give my client any more "server" ideas, lol.

@ Dave Atkin That was the first thing I disabled. Still the same problem. I've narrowed it down to a 2011 vs 2010 problem. My client has old 2010 backups and I did a fresh install of Peachtree 2010 on one of my machines. The 3-4 second delay was not there. I'm quite sure it was something Sage added or tried to "improve" with 2011 that's causing this problem.
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10 Apr 2012   #15
Coram Daes

W7x64P
 
 

The Navision issue was a user interface problem. Turns out that when they activated a certain control the application went heywire doing new queries to the database, seriously reducing performance, instead of presenting cached/indexed existing content. After receiving instructions on how not to do, and how to do instead, the problem was solved from that perspective.

I have no idea whether this would help, but I promised to get back and here it is.
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10 Apr 2012   #16
Dave Atkin

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Installing it on HyperV will be a waste of time. There will be no change in performance.... In the future it maybe that all machines are visualized but its not required at the moment.

I'm not that familiar with Peachtree. On Sage Accoutns there are maintenance options line database re-indexing. Do you get that with Peachtree? - Always do a backup first though.



Dave
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10 Apr 2012   #17
0pTicaL

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

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11 Apr 2012   #18
Dave Atkin

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

It sounds like they are very difficult to deal with.

They cant expect you to upgrade to a Server OS if their website says that the program can be installed on Windows 7. On the back of the disk case does it say the requirements on there?


Dave
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11 Apr 2012   #19
0pTicaL

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dave Atkin View Post
It sounds like they are very difficult to deal with.

They cant expect you to upgrade to a Server OS if their website says that the program can be installed on Windows 7. On the back of the disk case does it say the requirements on there?


Dave
No, the box has no system requirements listed. Only the installation DVD and manual.

It looks like I need to install Windows Server 2008 R2 to get things running as Sage will not provide support if I install it on non-server OS.

I'm not sure which version of WS 2008 I need. I see on Newegg there's a few flavors of WS 2008.

There's:

Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard 64bit 5clt

Microsoft Windows Server Standard 2008 R2 SP1


Microsoft Windows Web Server 2008 R2 - 64-bit - Complete Product
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12 Apr 2012   #20
Dave Atkin

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Because you are only a small company I would go for Microsoft Small Business Server 2008/2011 (Check that this is supported but its basically Server 2008 with add-ons..)



Dave
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