why is the TTL unstable?

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  1. Posts : 31
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
       #1

    why is the TTL unstable?


    hello

    i was wondering why the TTL (time to live) when i am pinging my router is unstable,
    it goes from 10 to 117

    usually it is 111, 117, 69
    i have this question since when i am searching for ping problems on google, other people have stable TTL
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  2. Posts : 2,171
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #2

    Try the tracert command to see where you're hopping to.
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  3. Posts : 6,285
    Windows 10 Pro X64
       #3

    There should be no hops when pinging the router. It should be rock solid and identical almost all the time. For instance, when I ping my router 10 times, I get this:
    >ping 192.168.2.2 -n 10

    Pinging 192.168.2.2 with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 192.168.2.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.2.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
    What are the results if you do the ping in Safe Mode with Networking?
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  4. Posts : 2,171
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #4

    Yeah, that's why the OP is asking. He's not getting expected ttl's. Like it's hopping from here to Timbuktu!! Maybe the question should be:

    Are you sure it's your router you're pinging?
    What's the address you're pinging?
    And what's the timing (in ms)?
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  5. Posts : 8,870
    Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
       #5

    jingyin said:
    hello

    i was wondering why the TTL (time to live) when i am pinging my router is unstable,
    it goes from 10 to 117

    usually it is 111, 117, 69
    i have this question since when i am searching for ping problems on google, other people have stable TTL

    If this is a wireless connection try changing to WPA2 security with AES encryption. Windows 7 sometimes has problems with WEP and TPIK. Flashing the router with new or different firmware would also be an option.
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  6. Posts : 31
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #6

    hello

    it is a wireless connection
    it is 85% time 117 and 111
    sometimes it just goes to 69

    Here is an example :

    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=210ms TTL=11
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=111

    EDIT: my router is WRT120N linksys router
    so i ping to 192.168.1.1
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  7. Posts : 8,870
    Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
       #7

    jingyin said:
    hello

    it is a wireless connection
    it is 85% time 117 and 111
    sometimes it just goes to 69

    Here is an example :

    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=210ms TTL=11
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=69
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=111
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=117
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=111

    EDIT: my router is WRT120N linksys router
    so i ping to 192.168.1.1
    The thing about wireless is that if your neighbors are using the same channel, or close to the same channels as you then the bandwidth for those channels will be constantly changing which will effect your ping.

    You should make the changes to the security and encryption as I suggested earlier then use a WIFI scanner to determine which channels have the least amount of interference, or crossover from other wireless networks.

    Wi-Fi Inspector | Xirrus
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  8. Posts : 31
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #8

    oh ok thanks
    and yeah i already have that WPA 2 personal and AES encryption

    you guys helped a lot, i guess that my ping is jumping to my neighbors network?
    i cant really help it i guess, my neighbors network is constantly changing chanels (i think it is on auto)
    and sometimes, it just interfere with me

    thanks !
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  9. Posts : 2,171
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #9

    Is it odd how those ttl's are inconsistently consistent? Other than a stray 11, and a 64, there are a bunch of 117, 111, and 69.

    Might be interesting to do the ping with the "-r" and/or tracert on your system.

    And I guess some of those high ping times could be due to wireless interference.
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  10. Posts : 2,171
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #10

    Or try pathping.
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