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Windows 7: Remote Administration (No Network, without RDP)

04 Aug 2012   #1
Hell Bomb

 
Remote Administration (No Network, without RDP)

Ok, I manage like 15 computers, friends, family etc, and want to setup something like remote command prompt access so i can move some an installer for whatever or fix issues remotely without bothering them. I was thinking something like telnet, or SSH but not sure how much access that will give me to the computer, I already have the built in admin account setup for using remote desktop but I truly hate using that. I want to avoid using remote desktop because well it sucks unless you are hard-lined on the same main network. I really don't need to see what they are doing, which is why i want to avoid using teamviewer, i don't wanna have to call them every time i need to login to fix something, and i don't wanna accidentally remote in and see them doing banking or something else like that.


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04 Aug 2012   #2
conradsallian

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hell Bomb View Post
Ok, I manage like 15 computers, friends, family etc, and want to setup something like remote command prompt access so i can move some an installer for whatever or fix issues remotely without bothering them. I was thinking something like telnet, or SSH but not sure how much access that will give me to the computer, I already have the built in admin account setup for using remote desktop but I truly hate using that. I want to avoid using remote desktop because well it sucks unless you are hard-lined on the same main network. I really don't need to see what they are doing, which is why i want to avoid using teamviewer, i don't wanna have to call them every time i need to login to fix something, and i don't wanna accidentally remote in and see them doing banking or something else like that.
Use the Terminal mode in Remote Utilities. It's free for personal use, btw, and won't annoy you with banners like TeamViewer.
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04 Aug 2012   #3
Hell Bomb

 

Hmmm I am checking that out now and it seems like it could be really nice, thx for the tip, honestly never even heard of that product before.
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04 Aug 2012   #4
richnrockville

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by conradsallian View Post
Use the Terminal mode in Remote Utilities. It's free for personal use, btw, and won't annoy you with banners like TeamViewer.
My Vipre says that this site is not a good guy.
I get this:
VIPRE has determined that the site
you are trying to visit contains potentially harmful or objectionable content.

To proceed to this site: In VIPRE, open
"File/Settings/Firewall" and add the URL to
"Bad Web Site Exceptions..."

Rich
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04 Aug 2012   #5
Hell Bomb

 

Does have a low rating but that doesn't mean the software is untrustworthy, the site comes up with a low rating on several different sections, but not finding anything real negative about the software itself.
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04 Aug 2012   #6
conradsallian

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by richnrockville View Post

My Vipre says that this site is not a good guy.
Antivirus companies are notorious for their strict rules towards remote control software. But being "not-a-virus-potentially-dangerous" is not the same as being a virus.

BTW, they are essentially right saying that it's potentially dangerous software. You can have total control over the remote PC with Remote Utilities just like with TeamViewer or other similar tool.

You can also use a brick to build a house or to hit someone on their head.
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04 Aug 2012   #7
conradsallian

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hell Bomb View Post
honestly never even heard of that product before.
I understand. These days it's pretty hard to hear anyone except TeamViewer fans that flood a forum immediately once there's a conversation about remote access software.
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04 Aug 2012   #8
Hell Bomb

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by conradsallian View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hell Bomb View Post
honestly never even heard of that product before.
I understand. These days it's pretty hard to hear anyone except TeamViewer fans that flood a forum immediately once there's a conversation about remote access software.
Yea i know. Teamviewer is great and all, but being able to fix someones computer via command line without seeing what they are doing or interrupting them is invaluable.
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11 Aug 2012   #9
conradsallian

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by richnrockville View Post
My Vipre says that this site is not a good guy.
I get this:
VIPRE has determined that the site
you are trying to visit contains potentially harmful or objectionable content.
Update on this issue: Vipre is owned by GFI software. This same firm owns TeamViewer (in case you didn't know about it, here's proof - see Holger Felgner About GFI ).

A very clever way to block off competitors, huh?
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12 Aug 2012   #10
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Maybe I'm a little late, but here are my 2 cents

If you're good at command line working, both Telnet and SSH make good choices. Both tools let you open a remote cmd session and work directly at the remote machine. About the permissions, that session runs in the security context of the server service, as configured in the remote machine, and maybe is affected by the server configuration. Basically you choose a Windows account on the remote side and have that user permissions remotely though cmd. Just be aware that, as services are immune to UAC in Win7, the cmd will run with full administrative access if you chose an admin account, or will get an "access denied" error if not, no elevation is possible and neither you or the remote user will realize.

Also think that all programs you run must be exclusively command line based (console mode really), and any GUI program will give you problems (in XP servers, it may appear in front of the logged user, and on 7 servers will simply left orphaned, thanks to session 0 isolation).

If you will be working exclusively on LAN, I would go for Telnet, as Windows as it built in and seems easier to setup. But if you're over internet, go for SSH, as Telnet is totally unsecure (because it's unencrypted and usernames/passwords/commands/responses go in clear text). SSH also gives SFTP with the same software for easy file transfer.

I personally use SSH to connect to my home computer from work and do some management stuff and it works well and is quite secure. Seems like the thing you need.
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