| Windows 7: Setting up a network in my home is killing me. |
06 Aug 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
Setting up a network in my home is killing me. Two computers.
Names are Black and the other Silver.
Two printers both hardwired to their computer using USB. One printer to Black (WIFI capable.) The other printer goes to Silver (not WIFI capable).
Asus router RTN12/300M Super Speed.
Both computers are hardwired to the router for the internet.The router to the DSL modem.
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I have got things all messed up. Black computer is on network#4 and the Silver is on network #3. Looking through the Tutorial I discovered at the beginning big problems. The Black computer doesn't have (Peer Network Grouping) running. The Silver doesn't have (Home Group Listener) working. I have tried to get them to run unsucessful. Problably because I doing something wrong. What I would like to do is remove all part of this mess I got and get the proper services running as they should and create a proper network with these two computers and 2 printers. One printer hardwired and the other WIFI. I have completed sfc /scannow on both computers.
Both computers are Windows 7 Home Premium/64. | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
07 Aug 2012
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#2 | | Windows 8 Pro 9200 x64 w/Media Center Austin, Texas |
Go to the System page in Control Panel, change the workgroup in each machine to something you like, the same on both machines. Shut each down, turn on both printers, boot each machine, now you should be able to print to both... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP a1250n, dv7 3173nr OS Windows 8 Pro 9200 x64 w/Media Center CPU AMD 3800+ X2 Motherboard MSI 7093 Memory 3GB Monitor(s) Displays Hitachi 22" CRT Samsung 24" sa550 Screen Resolution 1600x1200 1920x1080 Internet Speed 20Mb/s Other Info http://www.pixelmansion.com |
07 Aug 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, San Diego |

Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear Two computers.
Names are Black and the other Silver.
Two printers both hardwired to their computer using USB. One printer to Black (WIFI capable.) The other printer goes to Silver (not WIFI capable).
Asus router RTN12/300M Super Speed.
Both computers are hardwired to the router for the internet.The router to the DSL modem.
_____________________________________________
I have got things all messed up. Black computer is on network#4 and the Silver is on network #3. Looking through the Tutorial I discovered at the beginning big problems. The Black computer doesn't have (Peer Network Grouping) running. The Silver doesn't have (Home Group Listener) working. I have tried to get them to run unsucessful. Problably because I doing something wrong. What I would like to do is remove all part of this mess I got and get the proper services running as they should and create a proper network with these two computers and 2 printers. One printer hardwired and the other WIFI. I have completed sfc /scannow on both computers.
Both computers are Windows 7 Home Premium/64. The fix seems to be Deleting the file idstore.sst under C:\windows\serviceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Roaming\PeerNetworking
It might also help to Start the Task Manager Click on the service Tab, find the "HomeGroupProvider" and stop it. You may need to go back into services and enable PeerNetworking and HomeGroupProvider again after the fix. Don't forget to restart all machines after making those changes. You may need to enable "Show Hidden Files and Folders" in Folder Options, "View" tab in order to see the idstore.sst file.
You will need to do this on both machines.
These are the only known fixes available for these problems and this procedure has worked many times to fix both of the problems you are seeing. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, CPU Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz Motherboard Evga 780i FTW Memory G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T Graphics Card GTX480 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2 Monitor(s) Displays HannsG Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular Case ThermalTake XaserV Cooling Xigmatek S1283 Hard Drives GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD Internet Speed T1 |
07 Aug 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
I have remove the file idstore.sst but their are still 4 files idstorr.dll with about 40 to 50 kb's in each. I have not removed them should I?
Thank you for your help.
Last edited by Layback Bear; 08 Aug 2012 at 06:03 AM..
Reason: To make it make sence.
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
08 Aug 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, San Diego |

Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear I have remove the file idstore.sst but their are still 4 files idstorr.dll with about 40 to 50 kb's in each. I have not removed them should I?
Thank you for your help. Yes please remove everything you see there.
It will all get be fixed on it's own when you set up the network again.
Once you get that sorted you might consider setting up a Homegroup. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, CPU Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz Motherboard Evga 780i FTW Memory G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T Graphics Card GTX480 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2 Monitor(s) Displays HannsG Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular Case ThermalTake XaserV Cooling Xigmatek S1283 Hard Drives GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD Internet Speed T1 |
09 Aug 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
I'm still in a fight with these two computers. I have got over 16 hours in the last few days in this problem. Stoping for coffee and trips to the john every now and then and a few trips here. I did what you recommended on both computers. Both computers access the internet as they should. One on or both booted it doesn't matter.
The Networkk test good on both computers, (no issure found). I'm have been trying to start a Home Group on the Black computer and joint the Home Group with the Silver computer. I have went through the Tutorials many many times with no good results.I have watched videos from Microsoft and others.
I have tried it with and without password protection with the same results. Unable to access the other computer, (no permission). I have cut/paste passwords and also typed them in. Same thing no access accross the computers. The only consistant thing I have noticed is on the Silver computer the one I'm trying to join the Home Group of the Black computer is the Homegroup Listener and Peer Networking Grouping in Services are set to started/ manual but after a reboot they don't show in Services as started. The Black computer is on Network 3 and the Silver computer is on Network 4. I have no idea what that is all about or how to change it. With all the things I haved tried I could type for another couple of hours. I have about a dozen pages of notes. Why can't I get simple problems?? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
13 Feb 2013
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
I findly fixed the darn HomeGroup I feel so dumb. Off and on I have spent many many hours just trying to set up a Home Group between 2 computers from this thread.
You have no idea all the things I tried to do a simple thing like that. Much anger and coffee. The problem is solved and here is what I found. THE PASSWORD.
It would not except any password I made and I made many.
It would only except a password made by the operating system only. With all the reading I have done on this I never did read such a thing when it come to doing a simple Home Group. I have 4 hours today alone in doing this.
I have more to learn about sharing and setting things up the way I want them. I have never had a Home Group or Work Group because I never wanted or needed one. Now I just want one.
I know, I know a three leged blind monkey should of been able to do this in a few minutes but not me because I wanted one of those super passwords. I don't know why I wanted such a password because it's only me and the cat in the house and she can't type. Hell she can't even make coffee.
I would like to thank all the people gave me help in this thread. I learned a lot from your suggestions.
Last edited by Brink; 14 Feb 2013 at 12:23 AM..
Reason: moved to original thread
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
14 Feb 2013
|
#8 | | Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, San Diego |

Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear I feel so dumb. Off and on I have spent many many hours just trying to set up a Home Group between 2 computers from this thread.
You have no idea all the things I tried to do a simple thing like that. Much anger and coffee. The problem is solved and here is what I found. THE PASSWORD.
It would not except any password I made and I made many.
It would only except a password made by the operating system only. With all the reading I have done on this I never did read such a thing when it come to doing a simple Home Group. I have 4 hours today alone in doing this.
I have more to learn about sharing and setting things up the way I want them. I have never had a Home Group or Work Group because I never wanted or needed one. Now I just want one.
I know, I know a three leged blind monkey should of been able to do this in a few minutes but not me because I wanted one of those super passwords. I don't know why I wanted such a password because it's only me and the cat in the house and she can't type. Hell she can't even make coffee.
I would like to thank all the people gave me help in this thread. I learned a lot from your suggestions. I would think that the default Homegroup password created by Windows would be plenty secure. I think you have to use the one that Windows creates.
There are more advantages to having a Homegroup than many people realize. I can explain some of those advantages if required. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, CPU Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz Motherboard Evga 780i FTW Memory G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T Graphics Card GTX480 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2 Monitor(s) Displays HannsG Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular Case ThermalTake XaserV Cooling Xigmatek S1283 Hard Drives GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD Internet Speed T1 |
14 Feb 2013
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
Thanks for the offer chev65. Their are many things that I don't understand about it and would like to make it run smooth being able to use everything on both computers from one computer. Just turn both computers and printers on and start sharing neat and clean. I will provide you with information or pictures that you request. Trying to get this Home Grouping working I have made many changes most I don't remember so I might of created problems also. I know nothing about networking but want to learn. So starting with basics (check this setting and that setting) would be fine with me. I sure wish I new about that password little goodie. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
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