| Windows 7: Sharing within Homegroup |
15 Sep 2009
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Sharing within Homegroup So I belong to a Homegroup network involving my family, I have turned off every kind of sharing possible, but my PC still appears in Network. Even though the media sharing shows up, it prevents anyone from going into it from Network, including myself.
But my PC still shows up in Network and I can go into it, looking at my entire user folder including desktop, received files, etc. As well as the public folder on my PC. Just because it is showing up and accessible from my computer, is it sharing it with everyone else?
I only ask because in the first RC of windows 7 my PC would show up, but whenever you clicked it, it would try to load and an error would pop up, so that is what I was expecting.
I also tried to remove sharing for the specific folders in Network, but it says access denied, even though I am the only User and the administrator on this computer. Thanks in advance. | My System Specs |
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15 Sep 2009
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Hi Shinobi and welcome to the forum.
If you don't want to share, maybe you should leave the Homegroup. You've already disabled sharing, but you're still in a Homegroup.
You should test it from another computer if you can, because browsing shares from your own computer doesn't necessarily mean others on the network can. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. |
15 Sep 2009
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Thanks sup3rsprt, I thought I had to belong to my homegroup to receive an internet connection. I left the homegroup but my PC still shows up on the Network list the same as it did before. I will try to access it from another computer when I can - and when I do I'll post my results. | My System Specs | | |
16 Sep 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, San Diego |
You should try turning off "Network discovery" in advanced Network sharing. That should make your computer invisible to others computers on the network. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, CPU Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz Motherboard Evga 780i FTW Memory G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T Graphics Card GTX480 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2 Monitor(s) Displays HannsG Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular Case ThermalTake XaserV Cooling Xigmatek S1283 Hard Drives GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD Internet Speed T1 |
16 Sep 2009
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Yes that's true. It also makes the network seem invisible to itself. However that option doesn't really make shared resources inaccessible. What makes shares inaccessible is to disable file sharing (or use the firewall to block the file sharing ports).
For example, I can disable "Network Discovery" on a computer having shared files but still access it by typing \\computername or \\ip.address.of.computer in the My Computer address bar.
Last edited by sup3rsprt; 16 Sep 2009 at 03:43 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. |
16 Sep 2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, San Diego |

Quote: Originally Posted by sup3rsprt Yes that's true. It also makes the network seem invisible to itself. However that option doesn't really make shared resources inaccessible. What makes shares inaccessible is to disable file sharing (or use the firewall to block the file sharing ports).
For example, I can disable "Network Discovery" on a computer having shared files but still access it by typing \\computername or \\ip.address.of.computer in the My Computer address bar. True, that will only make that computer invisable on the network which I assumed was what he was asking about. That advice wasn't meant to make anything secure just harder to see.
There are always ways to hack around the basic security but making the computer invisable keeps most honest people from being tempted to look at those files.
I wonder if shutting down all the network sharing features would make it harder to get into a networked sharing files on another network computer?
Or would getting there with \\computername or ip.address be possible then after shutting off all networking features. I should try to hack my own network and see if it's possible. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, CPU Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz Motherboard Evga 780i FTW Memory G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T Graphics Card GTX480 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2 Monitor(s) Displays HannsG Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular Case ThermalTake XaserV Cooling Xigmatek S1283 Hard Drives GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD Internet Speed T1 |
16 Sep 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 I wonder if shutting down all the network sharing features would make it harder to get into a networked sharing files on another network computer? That only happens if you do things like remove client for MS networks or disable all of the operating system's file sharing services.
If you just disable file sharing the normal way, it doesn't prevent you from accessing shares folders on another computer. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. |
16 Sep 2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |

Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 You should try turning off "Network discovery" in advanced Network sharing. That should make your computer invisible to others computers on the network. Turning off Network discovery will stop your PC from finding other shared items
Turning of File and Printer sharing should stop other machines finding your shared items
This is the default for the Public network location - where you do not wish to share files in a public location (wireless Hotspot?) | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
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Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects |
16 Sep 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 Turning off Network discovery will stop your PC from finding other shared items It should also stop your computer from showing in the Network (or Workgroup) list of another computer. But you're right in that it doesn't disable access to shared folders. That is what I was trying to say earlier. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. |
16 Sep 2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
I thought that the two items were separate, but a quick bit of research would seem to contradict this  .
Also I'm not sure what the situation is with regards to these advanced options for a computer on a Home Network and being joined to a homegroup
It may be that the homegroup will override these selections.
Homegroup utilises IPv6 whilst the standard advanced sharing options are on IPv4 so for total isolation It may be necessary to disable both
Will have to check this out | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects Sharing within Homegroup problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:07 PM. | |