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Windows 7: Network between routers fail.


07 Oct 2012   #11

Windows 7 64bit
 
 

Thanks for all the help, so far so good. I'm using the modem as a DHCP server and I got rid of router 1 cause its not needed. So changed the router two to, 192.168.1.2 and turned of DHCP and it works great. Hopefully with this setup the network wont quit after a little while. Will post about the switch in a bit.

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07 Oct 2012   #12

7 x64
 
 

you should be find for a Long Time. that is exactly the way I have my LAN working but with 2 routers

Cable modem to router one, router one does DHCP as the cable modem is just a modem. Then router 1 LAN port to a GB switch. 2 computer connected to that switch and that switch connected to another GB switch. From that second switch a Netgear N router is connected setup just like I described and then 2 other computers are wired to that second switch. Everything is connected and always works. Wired Wireless you name it they all work.
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08 Oct 2012   #13

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by edwar View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
In my opinion the Op would be far better served ditching the modem/router combo POS and going with a standard modem plugged into a standard router.

Trying to set up a reliable network with one of those modem/router combo's is not something I'd ever attempt, every time I see someone with one they are constantly having problems.
That is all completely false.
If the OP is using DSL most all modems supplied these days from DSL providers are also routers. Also most all supplied today can not be set into Bridge mode or can not be replaced by generic modems as the provider is using the modems serial number or some proprietary system for logging into the providers network allowing access to the Net.

Setting up a standalone router as a switch, with or without a Wireless Access Point in the router, by not using the WAN/Internet port on the router and turning off the DHCP server on that router works every time with no problems. The problems come when the standalone router is used AS a Router using the WAN/Internet port and the DHCP server in the standalone router.

If the OP follows my instructions for setting up both standalone routers he will have no more problems.
Sorry bro going to have to disagree with you on that one. I don't know about DSL but with broadband cable they don't ever supply some POS modem/router combo. It's a straight high speed modem "the right way".

I won't get into the fact that the OP never even mentioned he was using a modem/router combo, all I saw was him plugging a switch into what he said was a modem.

I've seen first hand the problems those units cause "5 here in the last couple weeks" and every one of them was having problems, mostly because people try to plug another router straight into them without making the proper adjustments, that is the problem in a nutshell, people don't take the time to set them up properly, if it was just a modem the set up would be greatly simplified which is better for the average consumer.
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08 Oct 2012   #14

7 x64
 
 

Well please tell me where you get a DSL modem that is only a modem and does not have a router included?
I ran with DSL for 9 years, from early 2002 until 2011 until I switched to a cable connection, and the modem I got was also a router. That was back in 2002.
Yes most of the problems are caused by the end user. You are completely wrong in your assumption that the modem/router combo boxes cause this problem, just like you stated it is the User.
All cable modem that I know of or have ever seen are just modems. Cable is different then DSL and the modems they use are completely different.
With the advent of VDSL it has changed once again. To my knowledge with VDSL there is no PPPoE log on system like on ADSL where the user logs on to the DSL providers network with a Username and password. The log on is all handled by the modem the provider supplies and that modem can not be changed except by the provider. Also it has been my personal experience dealing with these types of modem router combos that you can not set it into Bridged mode so you can use a normal router in the normal way. It has to be setup as I described as a Switch with WAP.
You may disagree all you like but that does not change the facts.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post

Sorry bro going to have to disagree with you on that one. I don't know about DSL but with broadband cable they don't ever supply some POS modem/router combo. It's a straight high speed modem "the right way".

I've seen first hand the problems those units cause "5 here in the last couple weeks" and every one of them was having problems, mostly because people try to plug another router straight into them without making the proper adjustments, that is the problem in a nutshell, people don't take the time to set them up properly, if it was just a modem then the set up would be greatly simplified which is better for the average consumer.
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