Well please tell me where you get a DSL modem that is only a modem and does not have a router included?
I ran with DSL for 9 years, from early 2002 until 2011 until I switched to a cable connection, and the modem I got was also a router. That was back in 2002.
Yes most of the problems are caused by the end user. You are completely wrong in your assumption that the modem/router combo boxes cause this problem, just like you stated it is the User.
All cable modem that I know of or have ever seen are just modems. Cable is different then DSL and the modems they use are completely different.
With the advent of VDSL it has changed once again. To my knowledge with VDSL there is no PPPoE log on system like on ADSL where the user logs on to the DSL providers network with a Username and password. The log on is all handled by the modem the provider supplies and that modem can not be changed except by the provider. Also it has been my personal experience dealing with these types of modem router combos that you can not set it into Bridged mode so you can use a normal router in the normal way. It has to be setup as I described as a Switch with WAP.
You may disagree all you like but that does not change the facts.
Quote: Originally Posted by chev65
Sorry bro going to have to disagree with you on that one. I don't know about DSL but with broadband cable they don't ever supply some POS modem/router combo. It's a straight high speed modem "the right way".
I've seen first hand the problems those units cause "5 here in the last couple weeks" and every one of them was having problems, mostly because people try to plug another router straight into them without making the proper adjustments, that is the problem in a nutshell, people don't take the time to set them up properly, if it was just a modem then the set up would be greatly simplified which is better for the average consumer.