| Windows 7: Switch from cable to DSL what is important to keep in mind? |
14 Nov 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Massachusetts |
Switch from cable to DSL what is important to keep in mind? Hi y'all 
I intend to switch my service provider from Cable (Time Warner) to DSL (probably Verizon) So far I never had DSL...went decades ago from dial up straight to cable. Now I need help from people who are more knowledgeable than me in that area.
My actual setup is as follows: Motorola cable modem ==> Cisco wireless router ==> Computer(s)
Basically I understand that I simply unhook the cable modem and replace it with a DSL modem
Is there anything else that would need to be changed/switched/altered?
Now please tell me if I got this right:
The highest speed obtainable largely depends on the distance and quality of the phone line between the node and my house (thus being beyond my control)
Which means even if I purchase a "better" package I won't get a faster access.
To avoid monthly rental fees I probably go out and buy a DSL Modem.
Is there anything to pay closer attention to, do they all work on the same lines or are there different models for those different "Speed-packages" ?
Any suggestions as of what brand/model would be favorable?
Can you think of anything else important I might have overlooked?
I don't want to act in a rush only to find out later on that I messed up and went about it the wrong way (Right now I'm really ticked off about those TW clowns who have a monopoly on cable here in the NW and I'm known to act irrationally when in a state like I am in now
So you see I need all the help I could get 
Thank you in advance
-DG | My System Specs |
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15 Nov 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Massachusetts |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP m8000n OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86 CPU DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2600 MHz 5200+ Motherboard Asus M2N68-LA (Narra) Memory Samsung 2GB DDR2 Graphics Card Onboard NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 Sound Card Onboard nVIDIA nForce 6100-430 (MCP61P) Monitor(s) Displays Westinghouse 19" LED Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech Classic KB 200 Mouse Standard HP opticle USB mouse PSU Stock (HP) Case Stock (HP) Cooling Stock Hard Drives SATA II Seagate Barracuda 500GB
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15 Nov 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
You should be able to do a simple swap with the cable and DSL modems. I would power everything off, swap them and power up in this Order, modem>Router, PC on port 1, and the next in order.
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15 Nov 2012
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#4 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Having your own modem is a good idea. But I got my modem for free (ATT). There are also routers with integrated modems. I use a Netgear like that in Germany (although the modem would have been free).
You should get at least DSL3000. Better even DSL6000 or higher. But those are more expensive. In Germany I have 6000 and in the US I have 3000. I can notice the difference in upload/download speed. They also offer DSL16.000, but maybe not your future ISP.
Make sure they put a central filter in your phone line. Those little dangly filters you attach to each phone jack are for the birds. I had a lot of phone static with those. The central filter (installed where the line comes into the house) solved the problem.
And if possible have them install a phone jack with a seperate line-out for the phone and the DSL. Those mobile line splitters are no good either. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
15 Nov 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Massachusetts |
@Britton Thank you for the reassurance!
@whs: I'm gonna shop around to see what provider is available and what are the different options here in the backwoods  DSL6000 would be nice, I'm just afraid those old copper lines just don't cut it .
Thank you for your other pointers as well, Wolfgang. I'll keep them in mind even if those lines as it looks now, won't be used for telephones. But now that I know about central filters I make sure they put one in.
I'll keep you posted when I have updated info.
Thanks a lot you guys I really appreciate it!
-DG | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP m8000n OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86 CPU DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2600 MHz 5200+ Motherboard Asus M2N68-LA (Narra) Memory Samsung 2GB DDR2 Graphics Card Onboard NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 Sound Card Onboard nVIDIA nForce 6100-430 (MCP61P) Monitor(s) Displays Westinghouse 19" LED Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech Classic KB 200 Mouse Standard HP opticle USB mouse PSU Stock (HP) Case Stock (HP) Cooling Stock Hard Drives SATA II Seagate Barracuda 500GB
USB II WD Elements 500GB
USB II WD My Book 1TB
USB II WD My Book 2TB |
15 Nov 2012
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#6 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
DSL6000 goes via copper lines (ATT offers that) - in Germany copper lines handle all the way to DSL16.000 but I am not sure of the situation in the US. My son has DSL56.000, but that is glass fibre lines.
Btw: I never had any problems with my DSL from ATT which I use since early 2007. In Germany I use a subsidiary of German Telecom and pay only appr. $20/month for DSL6000. It is more money here. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
16 Nov 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Massachusetts |
DSL6000 comes over copper wire, that's correct. The differences in speed between DSL3000 and up until DSL16000, as I understand it, are basically different portions of usable frequencies the copper wire can handle.
Since I'm in the backwoods (nowhere near a big city) I expect the wire quality of the aged grid here to be sub standard at best. I just talked to an ATT representative (there was a package deal for $14.95/month). Turns out they don't even serve New England at all.
So it's either Verizon or I find anything better.
So far I have a bundle offer for ~$45/month they call it 7.1-15MB/sec I assume that is equivalent to DSL 6000, right?
for $/10 less I only get 0.5-1.5MB/sec (which sounds to me like a pain in the rear
We'll see what else I can dig up here
Last edited by SledgeDG; 16 Nov 2012 at 02:49 PM..
Reason: corrected 16.000 instead of 1600 :)
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP m8000n OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86 CPU DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2600 MHz 5200+ Motherboard Asus M2N68-LA (Narra) Memory Samsung 2GB DDR2 Graphics Card Onboard NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 Sound Card Onboard nVIDIA nForce 6100-430 (MCP61P) Monitor(s) Displays Westinghouse 19" LED Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech Classic KB 200 Mouse Standard HP opticle USB mouse PSU Stock (HP) Case Stock (HP) Cooling Stock Hard Drives SATA II Seagate Barracuda 500GB
USB II WD Elements 500GB
USB II WD My Book 1TB
USB II WD My Book 2TB |
16 Nov 2012
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#8 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
I think that is Mb/sec, not MB/sec. And you really only know once you measure it. Speedtest.net - The Global Broadband Speed Test | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
16 Nov 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
You are fortunate to have DSL available, I understand one has to be within XX miles of a main switch of the provider.
WHS is correct, internet "speed" is quoted as mega bits per second, Mbs, generally. Divide Mbs by 8 to get megabytes per second, MBs | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
17 Nov 2012
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#10 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
I think the bit/sec was chosen because in the pre-digital times the line speed was measured in Baud which was pulses per second. Baud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 Switch from cable to DSL what is important to keep in mind? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:57 AM. | |