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Windows 7: XP pc won't see workgroup and Win7 pc

22 Mar 2013   #1
bozian2

Win7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 
XP pc won't see workgroup and Win7 pc

I have read and read and read and tried so many things I've lost track. Now at the scream and pull my hair out stage of home networking.

I have created a workgroup on the win7 pc and 'opened' everything up as much as I know how (probably too much, might have made myself vulnerable). The only thing I have managed to do is the XP pc now sees a network connection called "secure". Can't click or right click or do anything but get a message that says "you don't have access to this network resource, contact the admin". It connects to the internet just fine, from the moment I started it up - didn't have to do anything. So, I know it has no problem going through the netgear router to the westell modem/router at the heart of the system. I have another XP pc connected to the same netgear router and it at least sees the shared directories and other pc's on the network, but also will not connect, giving the same message.

I need something new to try or a new resource to read or a brilliant idea from someone. BTW, both pc's running XP are that way because they HAVE to run XP (before anyone suggests going to Win7) for legacy app support.

The worst part is back in the win95 and on to the XP days I used to do this sort of thing all the time at work and home no problem. IMHO MS has made this unreasonably complicated.


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22 Mar 2013   #2
johnebadbak

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

You will have to login as administrator if your user name doesn't have full control of each pc

XP right click on "my computer' click properties/computer name, click change follow settings required.

give the workgroup a name give it a name rather than the default which is workgroup

Win7 right click "Computer" properties, look for the setting computer name and workgroup settings

click the "change settings" as before give the workgroup the same name etc.

now you can see all pc's on the network but you can't access any drives till you go to my computer on (XP) and win7 and right click on the drive partitions you want to share.click sharing and security on xp
win7 its right click and share with then advance sharing.

main thing to note is that the permissions are set to your requirement so you can access each machine from either pc's
Make sure you have "file and print sharing" allowed through the fire wall on all pc's
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23 Mar 2013   #3
bozian2

Win7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

OK, I did this and changed the WORKGROUP to MYNET. I have several drives and folders shared allowing full control, but now the XP doesn't see anything on the network. No 'SECURE', no 'MYNET', no 'MARK-PC'. Even tried searching the network for MARK-PC and the shared drives - nothing.
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23 Mar 2013   #4
bozian2

Win7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Well this is just rediculous. I have been at this for a total of 10 hours now and still neither box can see the other. What a PITA. Why is this so rediculously hard to do??
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23 Mar 2013   #5
VistaKing

Windows 7 Ultimate 32-Bit & Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
 
 

Can you ping the other computers ? Open up command prompt either by IP ADDRESS or by computer name
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23 Mar 2013   #6
bozian2

Win7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

tried pinging by name from each to the other and no response.
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23 Mar 2013   #7
bozian2

Win7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Just "ping dellxp" and "ping mark-pc" - should one or both have worked?
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23 Mar 2013   #8
johnebadbak

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bozian2 View Post
OK, I did this and changed the WORKGROUP to MYNET. I have several drives and folders shared allowing full control, but now the XP doesn't see anything on the network. No 'SECURE', no 'MYNET', no 'MARK-PC'. Even tried searching the network for MARK-PC and the shared drives - nothing.
check xp local area connection settings set for client for microsoft networks

file and print sharing for microsoft networks are enabled

you could try the alternative connection and give the machine an ip address then ping it from your other machine
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24 Mar 2013   #9
bozian2

Win7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

So the issue is that this will not work trying to go through the netgear router to the westell. (Even though it works fine for internet access.) If I plug directly into the westell then I have connectivity. The problem now is that due to only having 3 available ports on the westell, something has to give. The only thing I can 'pull' from the westell is my main printer, and now none of the pc's on the network can print to it - presumably due to the same reason why the xp pc couldn't comm. through it.

Does anybody have suggestions on how I can 'punch through' the netgear router?
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24 Mar 2013   #10
bozian2

Win7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

And, apparently I got ahead of myself. While everything that I have shared on the network now shows in the list, I can't access any of it - "[destination] is not accessible. You might not have permission to use... access denied." Any win7 pc can access everything, the xp pc can't access anything.
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