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Windows 7: Having issues with networking permissions and access

25 Apr 2013   #1
ginadawn

windows home premium 64bit
 
 
Having issues with networking permissions and access

Hello. I hope I do not sound dumb here.. I am not very good with technical stuff. Ok. I have windows 7 home premium 64bit. There are 3 computers in my household which we are on a LAN. We all wanted to share folders/files with each other. However, one computer is using Linux (sp?) and so... it complicated things.

So, I did use Windows 7 Home network to link to one of the computers. Permissions for homegroup are read and being able to see folder list. However, the computer running Linux - could not access the shared files. So, we found if we used the everyone setting - that computer could also access the folders and files shared.

So I thought all fixed! great. NO. Now, while all 3 computers can share the files and folders... on my computer - When I (owner and user) try to use the folders for non networking purposes - like opening a file to edit it - or to save a file to that folder - it tells me I need permission from the administrators. Only I do have UAC turned off - and I have me, with the account set as administrator, an alternate account also set as administrator - and I guess the built in admin account and built in guest account are all there.
Honestly, I no longer have any idea what to do. I am the owner of the computer - home computer - they are my files on my computer - and it is not allowing me to move, edit, delete or save new files to any folder I shared.

Can anyone help me? Maybe it is something simple I over looked? I have been reading and reading tutorials and in forums - and I simply do not know what to do. How do I let the other two computers access my files and folders to read or copy to their computer - and still keep my own proper permissions as owner of the computer and the files?

Thank you so much.


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25 Apr 2013   #2
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ginadawn View Post
Hello. I hope I do not sound dumb here.. I am not very good with technical stuff. Ok. I have windows 7 home premium 64bit. There are 3 computers in my household which we are on a LAN. We all wanted to share folders/files with each other. However, one computer is using Linux (sp?) and so... it complicated things.

So, I did use Windows 7 Home network to link to one of the computers. Permissions for homegroup are read and being able to see folder list. However, the computer running Linux - could not access the shared files. So, we found if we used the everyone setting - that computer could also access the folders and files shared.

So I thought all fixed! great. NO. Now, while all 3 computers can share the files and folders... on my computer - When I (owner and user) try to use the folders for non networking purposes - like opening a file to edit it - or to save a file to that folder - it tells me I need permission from the administrators. Only I do have UAC turned off - and I have me, with the account set as administrator, an alternate account also set as administrator - and I guess the built in admin account and built in guest account are all there.
Honestly, I no longer have any idea what to do. I am the owner of the computer - home computer - they are my files on my computer - and it is not allowing me to move, edit, delete or save new files to any folder I shared.

Can anyone help me? Maybe it is something simple I over looked? I have been reading and reading tutorials and in forums - and I simply do not know what to do. How do I let the other two computers access my files and folders to read or copy to their computer - and still keep my own proper permissions as owner of the computer and the files?

Thank you so much.
You would definitely have less access problems from the Linux machine if the Windows machines were left out of the Homegroup.

When you make a Homegroup it creates something of a Domain within the Workgroup and as you found out, unless the "Everyone" permission is added to a folder you won't be able to access that folder from the Linux machine.

If you want to lock the other machines out then keep your main machine in the Homegroup, then you should leave the Homegroup from the other machines that you don't want to have full access.

You can then give these workgroup machines access to selected folders by simply adding the Everyone permission to only those folders.
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25 Apr 2013   #3
ginadawn

windows home premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ginadawn View Post
Hello. I hope I do not sound dumb here.. I am not very good with technical stuff. Ok. I have windows 7 home premium 64bit. There are 3 computers in my household which we are on a LAN. We all wanted to share folders/files with each other. However, one computer is using Linux (sp?) and so... it complicated things.

So, I did use Windows 7 Home network to link to one of the computers. Permissions for homegroup are read and being able to see folder list. However, the computer running Linux - could not access the shared files. So, we found if we used the everyone setting - that computer could also access the folders and files shared.

So I thought all fixed! great. NO. Now, while all 3 computers can share the files and folders... on my computer - When I (owner and user) try to use the folders for non networking purposes - like opening a file to edit it - or to save a file to that folder - it tells me I need permission from the administrators. Only I do have UAC turned off - and I have me, with the account set as administrator, an alternate account also set as administrator - and I guess the built in admin account and built in guest account are all there.
Honestly, I no longer have any idea what to do. I am the owner of the computer - home computer - they are my files on my computer - and it is not allowing me to move, edit, delete or save new files to any folder I shared.

Can anyone help me? Maybe it is something simple I over looked? I have been reading and reading tutorials and in forums - and I simply do not know what to do. How do I let the other two computers access my files and folders to read or copy to their computer - and still keep my own proper permissions as owner of the computer and the files?

Thank you so much.
You would definitely have less access problems from the Linux machine if the Windows machines were left out of the Homegroup.

When you make a Homegroup it creates something of a Domain within the Workgroup and as you found out, unless the "Everyone" permission is added to a folder you won't be able to access that folder from the Linux machine.

If you want to lock the other machines out then keep your main machine in the Homegroup, then you should leave the Homegroup from the other machines that you don't want to have full access.

You can then give these workgroup machines access to selected folders by simply adding the Everyone permission to only those folders.
Thank you for replying. I am not sure I explained myself very well. I will try to clarify.

Okay there are 3 computer on the LAN here at home. My daughter and I have Windows. Her husband has Linux.
I would like for them to have access to my movies, photos, music, and Sims 3 cc. I want them to be able to watch/listen to the media AND be able to copy it to their machines if they want. I do not want them to be able to delete or move my files around on my pc.

I am joined to our home group (via windows) with my daughter and honestly, I dont know exactly how her husbands machine shows up in network but I think it is because we have a LAN .

Okay now I did manage to do what I wanted for the other machines - which was to give them access but they cant delete. I dont mind if they add files if it changes anything.

The problem is for me - on my own computer - when I go to save a file to drives/folders I have shared - it will not let me. It says I need permission from Sys Admin to do that. Or when I went to delete a file/folder I was done with - it wouldnt let me. (subfolder)

Now I do not know how to set it up so that my pc sees me as the sys admin - do i need to disable to other accounts on my machine? (built in admin, built in guest and alt log on for myself in case of problems)

If I did explain properly the first time, and simply misunderstood your reply- please forgive. At this moment I do not yet understand how I can still share with them - my stuff with them - and still be allowed full access to my own stuff on my computer. Thank you so much for your help - I do appreciate it.
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25 Apr 2013   #4
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ginadawn View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ginadawn View Post
Hello. I hope I do not sound dumb here.. I am not very good with technical stuff. Ok. I have windows 7 home premium 64bit. There are 3 computers in my household which we are on a LAN. We all wanted to share folders/files with each other. However, one computer is using Linux (sp?) and so... it complicated things.

So, I did use Windows 7 Home network to link to one of the computers. Permissions for homegroup are read and being able to see folder list. However, the computer running Linux - could not access the shared files. So, we found if we used the everyone setting - that computer could also access the folders and files shared.

So I thought all fixed! great. NO. Now, while all 3 computers can share the files and folders... on my computer - When I (owner and user) try to use the folders for non networking purposes - like opening a file to edit it - or to save a file to that folder - it tells me I need permission from the administrators. Only I do have UAC turned off - and I have me, with the account set as administrator, an alternate account also set as administrator - and I guess the built in admin account and built in guest account are all there.
Honestly, I no longer have any idea what to do. I am the owner of the computer - home computer - they are my files on my computer - and it is not allowing me to move, edit, delete or save new files to any folder I shared.

Can anyone help me? Maybe it is something simple I over looked? I have been reading and reading tutorials and in forums - and I simply do not know what to do. How do I let the other two computers access my files and folders to read or copy to their computer - and still keep my own proper permissions as owner of the computer and the files?

Thank you so much.
You would definitely have less access problems from the Linux machine if the Windows machines were left out of the Homegroup.

When you make a Homegroup it creates something of a Domain within the Workgroup and as you found out, unless the "Everyone" permission is added to a folder you won't be able to access that folder from the Linux machine.

If you want to lock the other machines out then keep your main machine in the Homegroup, then you should leave the Homegroup from the other machines that you don't want to have full access.

You can then give these workgroup machines access to selected folders by simply adding the Everyone permission to only those folders.
Thank you for replying. I am not sure I explained myself very well. I will try to clarify.

Okay there are 3 computer on the LAN here at home. My daughter and I have Windows. Her husband has Linux.
I would like for them to have access to my movies, photos, music, and Sims 3 cc. I want them to be able to watch/listen to the media AND be able to copy it to their machines if they want. I do not want them to be able to delete or move my files around on my pc.

I am joined to our home group (via windows) with my daughter and honestly, I dont know exactly how her husbands machine shows up in network but I think it is because we have a LAN .

Okay now I did manage to do what I wanted for the other machines - which was to give them access but they cant delete. I dont mind if they add files if it changes anything.

The problem is for me - on my own computer - when I go to save a file to drives/folders I have shared - it will not let me. It says I need permission from Sys Admin to do that. Or when I went to delete a file/folder I was done with - it wouldnt let me. (subfolder)

Now I do not know how to set it up so that my pc sees me as the sys admin - do i need to disable to other accounts on my machine? (built in admin, built in guest and alt log on for myself in case of problems)

If I did explain properly the first time, and simply misunderstood your reply- please forgive. At this moment I do not yet understand how I can still share with them - my stuff with them - and still be allowed full access to my own stuff on my computer. Thank you so much for your help - I do appreciate it.
First, it's true as you found out, you can keep the two machines in the Homegroup to give each other access to all shared folders, and in order to share with other Workgroup machines you just need to add the "Everyone" permission to the Library's to give the Lenox machine access. You can also use the Public folders for sharing with other Op systems.

I wasn't sure what the actual problem was from your first post. So the problem is that on your own machine, you are having file access problems and you mentioned creating other User account on this same machine.

This is most likely because you are working with files that were created from another User account on your machine. Because the files were created under a different User account, Windows will give you the no access allowed prompt every time because you aren't the owner of those files. This is how it should be.

Usually just taking ownership of those files will allow you to work with them, the link below shows you how to install the utility to add "Take Ownership" option to the context menu, once you take ownership of a folder or file it will then allow you to work with it.

Take Ownership Shortcut
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25 Apr 2013   #5
ginadawn

windows home premium 64bit
 
 

Thank you! Yes, I do have that option in the context menu and I will try that.. taking ownership of all the files and folders that I am having trouble with. You have been helpful as now I have a definite action I can try.
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