Internet Connection Sharing help between Vista and Windows 7

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  1. Posts : 13
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    Thread Starter
       #11

    on win7 machine: ipconfig/all
    is dhcp enabled on lan adapter?
    is network card fine on win7 machine (connect it temporary to router and test). Can it browse websites then? has it ip addres 192.168.1.x then?
    ipconfig /all on Win7 shows DHCP Enabled: yes

    I can't connect it to the router because the router is upstairs, and my Win7 machine is very very heavy and has a lot of stuff connected to it.

    Just to make it clear, ICS is for sharing a wired connection, wired to wired only, and it requires a secondary Ethernet adaptor to work at all, a wireless connection does not figure into the equation.
    I'm not sure I'm explaining clearly. I have wireless that is connected to the internet and wish to share that internet connection over ethernet cable to my Win7 PC.

    Also, I tried connectify, and you need the PRO version to share over ethernet.

    On vista pc:
    Undo ICS
    Bridge the wireless and wired adapters. Select both in Network Center, rightclick and do bridge
    I bridged the connections, and the ipconfig results are:

    Windows 7:

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix:
    Link-local IPv6 Address: fe80::a489:1000:e3e6:f2c2%21
    Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address: 169.254.242.194
    Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
    Default Gateway:

    Windows Vista:

    Ethernet adapter Network Bridge:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix:
    Link-local IPv6 Address: fe80::c4fc:746f:d2a3:b66e%23
    IPv4 Address: 192.168.1.108
    Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1

    Network and Sharing Center on Windows 7 says Unidentified Network and the Sharing Center on Windows Vista is the same except that it says Network Bridge

    I'm still eying that 169.254 address
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  2. Posts : 10,796
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       #12

    ninja0 said:
    on win7 machine: ipconfig/all
    is dhcp enabled on lan adapter?
    is network card fine on win7 machine (connect it temporary to router and test). Can it browse websites then? has it ip addres 192.168.1.x then?
    ipconfig /all on Win7 shows DHCP Enabled: yes

    I can't connect it to the router because the router is upstairs, and my Win7 machine is very very heavy and has a lot of stuff connected to it.

    Just to make it clear, ICS is for sharing a wired connection, wired to wired only, and it requires a secondary Ethernet adaptor to work at all, a wireless connection does not figure into the equation.
    I'm not sure I'm explaining clearly. I have wireless that is connected to the internet and wish to share that internet connection over ethernet cable to my Win7 PC.

    Also, I tried connectify, and you need the PRO version to share over ethernet.

    On vista pc:
    Undo ICS
    Bridge the wireless and wired adapters. Select both in Network Center, rightclick and do bridge
    I bridged the connections, and the ipconfig results are:

    Windows 7:

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix:
    Link-local IPv6 Address: fe80::a489:1000:e3e6:f2c2%21
    Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address: 169.254.242.194
    Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
    Default Gateway:

    Windows Vista:

    Ethernet adapter Network Bridge:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix:
    Link-local IPv6 Address: fe80::c4fc:746f:d2a3:b66e%23
    IPv4 Address: 192.168.1.108
    Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1

    Network and Sharing Center on Windows 7 says Unidentified Network and the Sharing Center on Windows Vista is the same except that it says Network Bridge

    I'm still eying that 169.254 address
    delete the network bridge, undo ICS. Now vista has 2 ip addresses:
    -192.168.1.108
    -169.254..

    win7 has 169.254..

    Can vista ping win7 and vice versa? Do they see each other in network centre? Just to prove cable and drivers are fine
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  3. Posts : 13
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #13

    Tried pinging.

    Results:

    On the Win7 machine, the first two pings were "Request timed out." and the second two pings were "Reply from 169.254.xxx.xxx: Destination host unreachable."

    On the Vista Machine, it just said "Reply from 169.254.xxx.xxx: Destination host unreachable."

    Thanks for the help guys, I really appreciate it. :)
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  4. Posts : 10,796
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #14

    On both machines:
    Code:
    route  -4  print
    post output. Be sure bridging and ICS are not active
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  5. Posts : 13
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    Thread Starter
       #15

    Vista
    Code:
    ===========================================================================
    Interface List
     13 ...00 16 d3 97 ea 8a ...... Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
      8 ...00 1a 73 41 b7 0d ...... Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
      1 ........................... Software Loopback Interface 1
     18 ...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0  isatap.{B8ABE36B-A0E7-4573-A378-77E7D08A693E}
      9 ...02 00 54 55 4e 01 ...... Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
     20 ...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0  Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
    ===========================================================================
    
    IPv4 Route Table
    ===========================================================================
    Active Routes:
    Network Destination        Netmask          Gateway       Interface  Metric
              0.0.0.0          0.0.0.0      192.168.1.1    192.168.1.107     25
            127.0.0.0        255.0.0.0         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
            127.0.0.1  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
      127.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
          169.254.0.0      255.255.0.0         On-link     169.254.10.20    286
        169.254.10.20  255.255.255.255         On-link     169.254.10.20    286
      169.254.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link     169.254.10.20    286
          192.168.1.0    255.255.255.0         On-link     192.168.1.107    281
        192.168.1.107  255.255.255.255         On-link     192.168.1.107    281
        192.168.1.255  255.255.255.255         On-link     192.168.1.107    281
            224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
            224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link     192.168.1.107    281
            224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link     169.254.10.20    286
      255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
      255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link     192.168.1.107    281
      255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link     169.254.10.20    286
    ===========================================================================
    Persistent Routes:
      None
    Win7
    Code:
    ===========================================================================
    Interface List
     21...50 46 5d 4f 23 03 ......Intel(R) 82579V Gigabit Network Connection
     17...dc 85 de 67 26 8f ......Bluetooth Personal Area Network
     14...dc 85 de 7c b9 7f ......Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapter
     12...de 85 de 7c 39 7f ......Broadcom Virtual Wireless Adapter
     11...dc 85 de 7c b9 7f ......Broadcom 802.11n Network Adapter
      1...........................Software Loopback Interface 1
     22...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
     20...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
     18...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
     13...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
     19...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #4
     44...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #5
     45...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #6
    ===========================================================================
    
    IPv4 Route Table
    ===========================================================================
    Active Routes:
    Network Destination        Netmask          Gateway       Interface  Metric
            127.0.0.0        255.0.0.0         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
            127.0.0.1  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
      127.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
          169.254.0.0      255.255.0.0         On-link   169.254.242.194    286
      169.254.242.194  255.255.255.255         On-link   169.254.242.194    286
      169.254.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link   169.254.242.194    286
            224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
            224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link   169.254.242.194    286
      255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
      255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link   169.254.242.194    286
    ===========================================================================
    Persistent Routes:
      None
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  6. Posts : 10,796
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       #16

    ninja0 said:
    Vista
    Code:
    ===========================================================================
    Interface List
     13 ...00 16 d3 97 ea 8a ...... Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
      8 ...00 1a 73 41 b7 0d ...... Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
      1 ........................... Software Loopback Interface 1
     18 ...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0  isatap.{B8ABE36B-A0E7-4573-A378-77E7D08A693E}
      9 ...02 00 54 55 4e 01 ...... Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
     20 ...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0  Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
    ===========================================================================
     
    IPv4 Route Table
    ===========================================================================
    Active Routes:
    Network Destination        Netmask          Gateway       Interface  Metric
              0.0.0.0          0.0.0.0      192.168.1.1    192.168.1.107     25
            127.0.0.0        255.0.0.0         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
            127.0.0.1  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
      127.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
          169.254.0.0      255.255.0.0         On-link     169.254.10.20    286
        169.254.10.20  255.255.255.255         On-link     169.254.10.20    286
      169.254.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link     169.254.10.20    286
          192.168.1.0    255.255.255.0         On-link     192.168.1.107    281
        192.168.1.107  255.255.255.255         On-link     192.168.1.107    281
        192.168.1.255  255.255.255.255         On-link     192.168.1.107    281
            224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
            224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link     192.168.1.107    281
            224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link     169.254.10.20    286
      255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
      255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link     192.168.1.107    281
      255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link     169.254.10.20    286
    ===========================================================================
    Persistent Routes:
      None
    Win7
    Code:
    ===========================================================================
    Interface List
     21...50 46 5d 4f 23 03 ......Intel(R) 82579V Gigabit Network Connection
     17...dc 85 de 67 26 8f ......Bluetooth Personal Area Network
     14...dc 85 de 7c b9 7f ......Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapter
     12...de 85 de 7c 39 7f ......Broadcom Virtual Wireless Adapter
     11...dc 85 de 7c b9 7f ......Broadcom 802.11n Network Adapter
      1...........................Software Loopback Interface 1
     22...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
     20...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
     18...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
     13...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
     19...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #4
     44...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #5
     45...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #6
    ===========================================================================
     
    IPv4 Route Table
    ===========================================================================
    Active Routes:
    Network Destination        Netmask          Gateway       Interface  Metric
            127.0.0.0        255.0.0.0         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
            127.0.0.1  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
      127.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
          169.254.0.0      255.255.0.0         On-link   169.254.242.194    286
      169.254.242.194  255.255.255.255         On-link   169.254.242.194    286
      169.254.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link   169.254.242.194    286
            224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
            224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link   169.254.242.194    286
      255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
      255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link   169.254.242.194    286
    ===========================================================================
    Persistent Routes:
      None
    routing tables are correct.

    on win7: ping 169.254.. (the ip address of vista)
    on vista: ping 169.254.. (the ip address of win7)

    Disable firewall/virusscan of both machine (temporary)
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  7. Posts : 13
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #17

    On Both Machines:

    Pinging 169.254.xxx.xxx with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 169.254.10.20: Destination host unreachable.
    Reply from 169.254.10.20: Destination host unreachable.
    Reply from 169.254.10.20: Destination host unreachable.
    Reply from 169.254.10.20: Destination host unreachable.

    Ping statistics for 169.254.xxx.xxx:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
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  8. Posts : 10,796
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #18

    ninja0 said:
    On Both Machines:

    Pinging 169.254.xxx.xxx with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 169.254.10.20: Destination host unreachable.
    Reply from 169.254.10.20: Destination host unreachable.
    Reply from 169.254.10.20: Destination host unreachable.
    Reply from 169.254.10.20: Destination host unreachable.

    Ping statistics for 169.254.xxx.xxx:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    When did it say received=4??? That means it ended succesfully!

    Did you temporary disable firewall and virusscanners during the test?
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  9. Posts : 13
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #19

    With the firewall on, I got those results on both machines.
    With the firewall off, I got those results on the Vista system, but on the Win7 system, it said "Request timed out." twice.
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  10. Posts : 10,796
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #20

    Assume vista has 169.254.100.200 and win7 has 169.254.33.44

    on vista:
    ping 169.254.33.44

    on win7:
    ping 169.254.100.200

    ----
    so ping vista from win7 and vice versa

    post output
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