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Windows 7: Homegroup connection problem

19 Aug 2013   #11
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

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It keeps changing because I keep pushing buttons because I don't want to just sit here doing nothing.

I have gotten the public folders to work. These are the 'Public' folders that appear under the network drive on each machine. However, if you click on the pc visible under the Homegroup icon the folders (which appear are the ones that result after you check the boxes in the Homegroup Settings page), Nothing happens at all.

The 'User' folder also appears in this group but clicking on it presents the message that the location is unavailable.

This is one problem. But I would be happy to ignore this problem and solve the problem of why I can't get any drives from one machine to be accessible to the other. All this public, library folders that seem to never be in the location you were expecting is very confusing. The best and simplest is to just make the whole damn machine appear. What else is there to us layman?

Thanks very much for your interest. Previously the second machine was configured with Vista. I even had a tech over here and after many hours couldn't figure it out. So I went out and spent a bunch of money to upgrade and put Windows 7 on the machine. Now I have the same problem. Unbelievable.
So now drive access is the problem? Follow the link below to fix the drive access problems. Typically just adding the "Everyone" share to the Security tab will fix this.

HDD sharing
From original post -

"What I want is simply the other computer and all of it's drives showing in the navigation pane. I thought that's what was going to show - the whole computer. Not just libraries. That's what I'm trying to do. Show each computer in its entirety."

From the second post above -

"I have a Homegroup with the same password on both machines.
I do not use any logon requirements on either machine.
I have mapped a network drive and granted permission to everyone."

I know it's confusing to read all my writing. But I have covered both of those items.
Using the same password to join the Homegroup goes without saying, if the passwords weren't the same then you wouldn't be in the same Homegroup.

No you actually haven't covered that, you really need to pay attention here. I'm not concerned that you want to show the entire computer, I don't even know what that means.

You gave permission to Everyone through the Sharing tab of the C:>Users folder, which is required.

As in the link I posted clearly shows, you need to add the Everyone share to the Security tab of the C:>Users folder as well.

This is what is required in order to share drives that were created under a different user name than the one you are using.


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19 Aug 2013   #12
tradervic

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Service Pack 1
 
 

But all this permission stuff is idiotic. Why have a home group and uncheck the requirement for password authentication if you still have to go around selecting permissions. I have checked permissions and maybe I just can't find the right page. I will continue to double check the permissions.
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19 Aug 2013   #13
tradervic

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Service Pack 1
 
 

"No you actually haven't covered that, you really need to pay attention here. I'm not concerned that you want to show the entire computer, I don't even know what that means. "

I'm not trying to begrudge you when you are trying to help. But if I need to pay attention so do you. What would 'Show the entire computer mean?'

Really? You list all the drives from one computer on the other. Simple. All the drives from the computer you are sitting at are listed. Under 'Network' all the drives from a second computer are visible.
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19 Aug 2013   #14
tradervic

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Service Pack 1
 
 

These are my permissions. I notice that there are two different methods of granting permission. In one way you go through the sharing tab and the other you go through security tab. To me it seems as if both of these permissions are acceptable. On one everyone has permission and on the other authenticated users have permission. I guess they both have different purposes. But what would a Homegroup be if the computers belonging weren't already authenticated users? Besides as we can see the second computer is listed and granted permission.


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19 Aug 2013   #15
tradervic

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tradervic View Post
It keeps changing because I keep pushing buttons because I don't want to just sit here doing nothing.

I have gotten the public folders to work. These are the 'Public' folders that appear under the network drive on each machine. However, if you click on the pc visible under the Homegroup icon the folders (which appear are the ones that result after you check the boxes in the Homegroup Settings page), Nothing happens at all.

The 'User' folder also appears in this group but clicking on it presents the message that the location is unavailable.

This is one problem. But I would be happy to ignore this problem and solve the problem of why I can't get any drives from one machine to be accessible to the other. All this public, library folders that seem to never be in the location you were expecting is very confusing. The best and simplest is to just make the whole damn machine appear. What else is there to us layman?

Thanks very much for your interest. Previously the second machine was configured with Vista. I even had a tech over here and after many hours couldn't figure it out. So I went out and spent a bunch of money to upgrade and put Windows 7 on the machine. Now I have the same problem. Unbelievable.
So now drive access is the problem? Follow the link below to fix the drive access problems. Typically just adding the "Everyone" share to the Security tab will fix this.

HDD sharing

I'm pretty sure your suggestion worked. Windows security is changing the security settings on each file on the drive. It's a large drive with millions of files. Literally. It'll take a while to complete. In the meantime I want to thank you for your time. I apologize for my frustration. After 12 hours and an all nighter and checking permissions till I was blue in the face I was beginning to lose it. I thought the 'everyone' that was being referred to was not the 'everyone' that needed to be typed into a field. In your posting of the first permission images that was not the 'everyone' that needed to be changed. That was from your other post. I overlooked that 'HDD' link at the bottom of your post. And I would never have seen it if I hadn't gone over and reread your posts. Unbelievable amount of permission settings. Not so much I guess once you're familiar with them. I suppose it does a lot of good.

Thanks again for your time. I will be sure to increase your reputation when this thing finishes and I confirm that this is what the problem was. Then again maybe you should get a check just for putting up with me.
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19 Aug 2013   #16
tradervic

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Service Pack 1
 
 

Thanks. Much appreciated. I had to redo everything a couple of times. But when you set things up in the correct order it is quite effortless and it has been working flawlessly. I'm using a disc copy program to backup the drive to the other computer. Piece of cake. Thanks again.

Plus I have Synergy running. Cool program. Lets you use one mouse and keyboard over two computers. It'll do several computers if you have the need.
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