3 pcs on a network

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  1. Posts : 13
    XP Pro & W7
       #1

    3 pcs on a network


    Hi, I have 2 XP and 1 W7 pc's all on a network, they all talk to each other fine and exchange files via a 4 port switcher connected to a single router

    The 2 XP pc's can get the internet when connected at the same time
    The W7 pc can get the internet when connected on its own
    BUT
    No pc can get the internet when all 3 are connected to the switch

    All professional versions of each software

    I suspect the W7 setup,, any ideas please.
    Thanks
      My Computer


  2. Posts : 8,870
    Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
       #2

    Cameraman said:
    Hi, I have 2 XP and 1 W7 pc's all on a network, they all talk to each other fine and exchange files via a 4 port switcher connected to a single router

    The 2 XP pc's can get the internet when connected at the same time
    The W7 pc can get the internet when connected on its own
    BUT
    No pc can get the internet when all 3 are connected to the switch

    All professional versions of each software

    I suspect the W7 setup,, any ideas please.
    Thanks
    If you can post the ipconfig/all from all three machines when they are connected to the switch it would be helpful in diagnosing this problem.

    The model number of the router and the switch would also be helpful. :)
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  3. Posts : 13
    XP Pro & W7
    Thread Starter
       #3

    as per your request


    Hi Chev, thanks for your quick response
    Here is the printout from running ipconfig on each machine when connected.
    Cant tell you a make of the switch its a simple 4port box with 4 RJ connectors. 3 to the pc's and one to a BT internet 3 router
    Not quiet sure why the printouts for the two XP machines are so different but each is copied here in full (I added the pc names
    --------------------
    Windows IP Configuration Windows windows XP PC1

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : a-cd94e82b6f3f4
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : home
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethe
    rnet NIC
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-01-08-00-48-FB
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.71
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    192.168.1.254
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 22 August 2013 17:39:52
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 23 August 2013 17:39:52
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Windows IP Configuration Windows XP PC2

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : b-fast
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : home
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet Adapter

    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-8F-FE-09-1A
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.66
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::213:8fff:fefe:91a%4
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    192.168.1.254
    fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
    fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
    fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 22 August 2013 17:40:11
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 23 August 2013 17:40:11

    Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-EE-C4-A9-77-AE-D1
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:5ef5:79fb:0:eec4:a977:aed1
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::ffff:ffff:fffd%5
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

    Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : home
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-01-42
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.66%2
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
    fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
    fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    Windows IP Configuration Windows 7 PC3


    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : EXTREME
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : home
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ether
    net Controller #2
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-23-54-8A-90-8C
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : home
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ether
    net Controller
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-23-54-8A-95-6F
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4587:cd99:1896:3b96%10(Preferred)
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.73(Preferred)
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 22 August 2013 17:38:02
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 23 August 2013 19:32:12
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234890068
    DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-17-20-CA-2B-00-23-54-8A-95-6F

    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    192.168.1.254
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

    Tunnel adapter isatap.home:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : home
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:5ef5:79fb:31:248f:a977:aed1(Prefer
    red)
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::31:248f:a977:aed1%14(Preferred)
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
      My Computer


  4. Posts : 457
    Microsoft Windows 10 Home Build 15036
       #4

    Odds are, you can find the brand and model of your router by going to http://192.168.1.254 See this page for an explanation: http://compnetworking.about.com/od/w...68-1-254-d.htm

    The webpage that should come up will have a brand name and model on the opening page. Once you have that information, you should be able to find the default username and password at the manufacturer's support page.

    One thing I'm wondering is, is the connection to your modem the same as all of the other ports, or is there a specific port that is marked for the modem? I would be surprised if it plugged into the same type of port as all the rest of your devices.
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  5. Posts : 13
    XP Pro & W7
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Sorry, maybe I did not explain clearly, the 3 pc's each plug into a Simple 4way local RJ45 box marked 4 port switch, the 4th port GOES to a BT home hub router that has 3 RJ45 connectors, one from the local PC Switcher the other two from satellite PVR's, the PVR's and 2 other the pc's all access the internet fine. The 3 pc's all talk to each other fine. My problem is, when I plug the Windows 7 pc NONE of the pc's can access the internet, when I plug the Windows 7 pc into the local switcher on its own and unplug the other two pc's, that third W7 pc can get the internet.
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  6. Posts : 8,870
    Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
       #6

    I'm a bit confused on the network arrangement.

    I don't see how the Windows 7 machine would bring down the entire network unless it's not being plugged into the correct port location but the description of this network has me a bit confused. Local PC switcher?
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  7. Posts : 457
    Microsoft Windows 10 Home Build 15036
       #7

    chev65 said:
    I'm a bit confused on the network arrangement.

    I don't see how the Windows 7 machine would bring down the entire network unless it's not being plugged into the correct port location but the description of this network has me a bit confused. Local PC switcher?
    That's what made me wonder if the correct ports were being used at the router. I think a good idea might be to switch the Win7 port and the modem port and see if things change.
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  8. Posts : 13
    XP Pro & W7
    Thread Starter
       #8

    OK, I have actually found the manufacturer of the "switch" the 3 pc's are plugged into.
    Ethernet Switch/5-port Fast Ethernet Switch Ethernet Switch Manufacturer & Wholesale Supplier From Taiwan - Pro-Nets Technology Corp.
    It is the ES3105CH4 Full Duplex Ethernet Switch a 4th cable goes from this switch to the BT router.
    Remember ALL pcs can talk to each other when all 3 are plugged into the switch (file exchange etc)
    all 3 pc's can get the internet ok just NOT when all 3 are plugged in together the two XP pc's are ok together, the W7 Pc is ok on its own
    Thanks for your assistance
      My Computer


  9. Posts : 8,870
    Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
       #9

    It sounds like something isn't plugged in correctly or the router is having problems. This despite the fact that they are all showing a valid IP in the correct subnet.

    Have you tried rebooting or resetting the router?
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  10. Posts : 13
    XP Pro & W7
    Thread Starter
       #10

    re-Booted router no difference, had an idea and looked in events and found this:
    The IP address lease 192.168.1.73 for the Network Card with network address 0x0023548A956F has been denied by the DHCP server 192.168.1.254 (The DHCP Server sent a DHCPNACK message).
    Am using said W7 pc but without the other 2 pc's connected to the my network.
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