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Windows 7: Unidentified home network with Wifi only internet

18 Mar 2014   #11
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
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Either use a modem or you won't have an internet connection, it's that simple.
The OP is getting internet access from via Wi-Fi from a Wireless Access Point (WAP) that the OP does not control. The ipconfig screenshot mentioned "freewifi" - so, I'm guessing that this Wi-Fi signal is free to all of the boats in the area.

The problem comes when the OP adds a home network into the mix (e.g. ties two laptops together via a LAN cables and one router). That network is fine as long as the OP can change the network type to Home. But once one of the laptops connects to the free Wi-Fi, that local network changes to the Unidentified network type.

Goal:
Have the local network remain as the Home network type while using the free Wi-Fi on another network.

I don't know how to solve the OP's issue - but maybe I've described the network setup and the issue close enough for you or other forum members to help.


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18 Mar 2014   #12
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
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Either use a modem or you won't have an internet connection, it's that simple.
The OP is getting internet access from via Wi-Fi from a Wireless Access Point (WAP) that the OP does not control. The ipconfig screenshot mentioned "freewifi" - so, I'm guessing that this Wi-Fi signal is free to all of the boats in the area.

The problem comes when the OP adds a home network into the mix (e.g. ties two laptops together via a LAN cables and one router). That network is fine as long as the OP can change the network type to Home. But once one of the laptops connects to the free Wi-Fi, that local network changes to the Unidentified network type.

Goal:
Have the local network remain as the Home network type while using the free Wi-Fi on another network.

I don't know how to solve the OP's issue - but maybe I've described the network setup and the issue close enough for you or other forum members to help.
Yes that describes it better "didn't realize there was a free a/p" but I believe with those free WiFi signals that often times they will prevent a person from extending the network beyond a single connection although sharing files should be possible if the machines are all using the same default gateway. A router could be used but you would need to know the gateway of the A/P etc.

Also I'd say that pseudo connections like this are variable and unreliable by nature and may require ICS "internet connection sharing" or a simple AdHoc network in order to share files etc. A router isn't even required if this is the case.

The link shows how to set up basic AdHoc to share files but you can use connectify or a virtual router software for this as well.

I should also mention that trying to share a wireless connection to an Ethernet connection isn't really what these software's are for. They are basically set up for sharing wireless to wireless as wireless to Ethernet can be unreliable.

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...windows-7.html

http://virtualrouter.codeplex.com/

http://www.connectify.me/
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18 Mar 2014   #13
PBzeer

Windows 7 Professional 32 bit and 64 bit
 
 

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I should also mention that trying to share a wireless connection to an Ethernet connection isn't really what these software's are for.
I'm not trying to "share" the connection, nor to connect the network to the wireless internet connection.

The screen shot shows my Ethernet connection (LAN via direct cable connection) and my Wireless Internet connection. In this setup, the Ethernet LAN functions normally, and being connected to it does not interfere with connecting to the Internet via the Wireless adapter. The only problem with this setup is that Win 7 will not "identify" the LAN network, thus making it an "unidentified public" network, which then must be manually set to private.

At this point I have a working, unidentified LAN and Wifi Internet to the individual laptops. (the internet connection is not shared through the network)

So, the initial problem was how to make the LAN identifiable. After working through the properties of the adapters (IP, gateway, etc. settings), the best fix was using a router (setting all changes back to default). And, because of the situation, it had to be a wired only router.

I hook up the router, Win 7 recognizes the network which I then set to Home (location type) and name. Now I have an identified LAN. So the initial problem has been solved. Which then creates a different problem, as I can no longer connect to the Internet via the Wireless adapter of either laptop ... unless I disconnect from the router.

The TCP/IP values previously assigned to the wireless adapter have now been assigned to the ethernet adapter, leaving the wireless adapter "unidentifiable" to the Wifi ISP. Unless I disconnect from the router, at which time the wireless adapter "takes back" the TCP/IP values.

It appears that to give the Ethernet LAN the necessary TCP/IP values to create an identifiable network, prevents the Wireless adapter from obtaining the TCP/IP values necessary to connect to the Wifi ISP.

So what we have is ....

Option 1: Working Wireless Internet connection and unidentified Ethernet LAN (which must be reset manually after any interruption).

Option 2: Working identified Ethernet LAN (which does not need reset) and no Wireless Internet connection. (Wireless being the only available Internet connection)

Option 3: A working identified Ethernet LAN, and a working Wireless Internet connection. Which has proven, to this point, to be impossible.

Now, here's what I'm not trying to do ...

I'm not trying to connect the LAN to the Internet.
I'm not trying to share an Internet connection.
I'm not trying to connect a modem.

I don't know how to explain it any better. Usernameissues almost got what the problem is, but not quite.
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