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Windows 7: Unable to connect to one PC, but can the other way

17 May 2014   #21
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Ok that part done with. The tunnel adaptors were a result of the ICS making connections attempts which creates a big mess. Usually with that many tunnel adaptors you can't even get online.

I really don't mess with ICS "for obvious reasons" so I'm not completely sure if you can use the same subnet as your router is using but that's the only way sharing will work properly. I'm still confused as to why those workgroup machines in a different subnet were able to even show up under Network.

So now just go back into the IPv4 properties of PC-1, like when you set up the ICS, only this time use the same gateway as your router is using which is 192.168.0.1., Next you have to type in an IP in that same subnet, ideally you would use an IP that is outside the range of DHCP on your router but the ranges are different for each router so I'll just use one what you aren't using. So for now just use the IP> 192.168.0.10.

The ICS machine borrowing the connection needs it's static IP's changed as well because it's all messed up.

Both of these machines require the same gateway as the other machines in order to be in the same subnet, that gateway IP is 192.168.0.1, then give the second machine it's own IP of 192.168.0.11, notice I'm using .10 and .11,

I'm not completely sure how ICS will work in this case because it's really meant to create it's own little subnet so other machines can connect to that subnet. It's not meant to be used in the middle of a network with a common gateway.

I just noticed that you actually used the wrong gateway on PC-1, you used the same IP for the gateway as you did for PC-2. You really can't just guess at this man, it has to be right. You used the gateway of 192.168.2.1 as the IP on the second machine. Talk about confusing.

Now you start to see why I have this opinion of ICS...it creates nothing but problems.


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17 May 2014   #22
TheCyberMan

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

For filesharing and Homegroup to work all the machines have to be in the same subnet either in 192.168.0.1 subnet or 192.168.1.1 subnet you can't mix subnets.

Lets see an ipconfig /all from:
PC1 Daniel GPC
PC2 Daniel PC
PC3 Mandy PC

If I am correct.
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17 May 2014   #23
DanielPlumb

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
Ok that part done with. The tunnel adaptors were a result of the ICS making connections attempts which creates a big mess. Usually with that many tunnel adaptors you can't even get online.

I really don't mess with ICS "for obvious reasons" so I'm not completely sure if you can use the same subnet as your router is using but that's the only way sharing will work properly. I'm still confused as to why those workgroup machines in a different subnet were able to even show up under Network.

So now just go back into the IPv4 properties of PC-1, like when you set up the ICS, only this time use the same gateway as your router is using which is 192.168.0.1., Next you have to type in an IP in that same subnet, ideally you would use an IP that is outside the range of DHCP on your router but the ranges are different for each router so I'll just use one what you aren't using. So for now just use the IP> 192.168.0.10.

The ICS machine borrowing the connection needs it's static IP's changed as well because it's all messed up.

Both of these machines require the same gateway as the other machines in order to be in the same subnet, that gateway IP is 192.168.0.1, then give the second machine it's own IP of 192.168.0.11, notice I'm using .10 and .11,

I'm not completely sure how ICS will work in this case because it's really meant to create it's own little subnet so other machines can connect to that subnet. It's not meant to be used in the middle of a network with a common gateway.

I just noticed that you actually used the wrong gateway on PC-1, you used the same IP for the gateway as you did for PC-2. You really can't just guess at this man, it has to be right. You used the gateway of 192.168.2.1 as the IP on the second machine. Talk about confusing.

Now you start to see why I have this opinion of ICS...it creates nothing but problems.
Right, I did all of the above and now I do not get internet on PC-2 nor do I still have any access to PC-1. The only way I got internet on PC-2 is by setting the default gateway to 192.168.0.10 (the IP address of PC-1, where the connection is being "borrowed" from). Here is an updated copy of the ipconfig /all from PC-1 (Daniel-GPC) and PC-2 (Daniel-PC).

PC-1: Private Paste - Pastie
PC-2: Private Paste - Pastie

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TheCyberMan View Post
For filesharing and Homegroup to work all the machines have to be in the same subnet either in 192.168.0.1 subnet or 192.168.1.1 subnet you can't mix subnets.

Lets see an ipconfig /all from:
PC1 Daniel GPC
PC2 Daniel PC
PC3 Mandy PC

If I am correct.
By "mixing subnets" do you mean IP address'/default gateways? Because I have always used the "subnet" box that Windows has generated me of 255.255.255.0.

Thanks both of you for your help.
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17 May 2014   #24
TheCyberMan

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

By mixing subnets I mean 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.0.1.


255.255.255.0 is a mask for 192 C class subnets.
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18 May 2014   #25
DanielPlumb

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Oh, I see okay.

Well I still haven't achieved anything so far which is a bit of a shame. Any further help is greatly appreciated.

@chev64, my router DHCP goes up to 192.168.0.254. Should I lower this figure in the router configuration, or choose an IP that is higher than this?

Ok, I've decided to start from fresh and disregard everything I did last night by myself. I followed all of your instructions once again in post #21 and set them to exactly as you told me. I disabled ICS while I was at it, as I want to focus mainly on getting the files working. But, you guessed it, still nothing! I'll give you screenshots of absolutely everything from both PC's in the current situation.

PC-1:










ipconfig /all: http://pastie.org/private/tummpry8uaxtsutyfl0a

PC-2:








ipconfig /all: http://pastie.org/private/8fn7q4hzrfdjwndlssf7g

Thank you.
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18 May 2014   #26
Hearsepilot

Win 7
 
 

Do you actually have any folders set to be shared on the suspect machine?
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18 May 2014   #27
DanielPlumb

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Yes. I can access those from the laptop aswell.
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18 May 2014   #28
TheCyberMan

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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19 May 2014   #29
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

See the problem is as I said to begin with, ICS is meant to create it's own little network that is separate from the actual network, it's not made to be placed into the middle of a network, it's peer to peer not peer to gateway.

If those static settings don't work then you are SOL, I don't believe it's possible to set up ICS using the same gateway that the host machine is using but that is the only way it's going to work and be in the same subnet.

I don't see the static settings for the wireless connection in the picture? But that would be the only way it will work. You can use any IP that isn't in use. Or lower the DHCP range to end at 225, then use IP's ending between .226 and .254.

The best way to set this up is to run an Ethernet cable to the machine like everyone else who wants a coherent network.
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19 May 2014   #30
DanielPlumb

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TheCyberMan View Post
I'll have a look, thank you. I may be coming off of ICS though, see below.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
See the problem is as I said to begin with, ICS is meant to create it's own little network that is separate from the actual network, it's not made to be placed into the middle of a network, it's peer to peer not peer to gateway.

If those static settings don't work then you are SOL, I don't believe it's possible to set up ICS using the same gateway that the host machine is using but that is the only way it's going to work and be in the same subnet.

I don't see the static settings for the wireless connection in the picture? But that would be the only way it will work. You can use any IP that isn't in use. Or lower the DHCP range to end at 225, then use IP's ending between .226 and .254.

The best way to set this up is to run an Ethernet cable to the machine like everyone else who wants a coherent network.
Firstly, the settings that you gave me to enter on PC-1 in post #21, were they supposed to be entered in the Wireless IPv4 properties, or the Wired IPv4 properties? If this is correct, then I only did it in the wired properties, so my problem may lay here. If they were for the wireless, I'll try that and see what that gives me.

If there is still nothing, I'll have a few questions regarding networking of each machine around the house.

Thanks a lot.
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