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Windows 7: How do I create a Wired Home Network ?

17 May 2014   #1
tznomani

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?

Hi,

I am having trouble creating a wired home network. As per instructions I will give you all the details first.

My network configuration is:
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-completehomenetworkconfiguration.png

My internet service provider is Etisalat in the United Arab Emirates. They have provided me with a Huawei HG231F Router. The router has four LAN wires going to four different sockets in our home. Currently, we are using only two sockets: 1) Study Room, 2)Bedroom (Both PCs have Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1).

I just started the Debug Log on my Huawei Router so don't have much of a debug log for this router, but this is what it shows as of now:
HuaweiLog.txt

When I open the router administration page 192.168.1.100, I have the following screens:
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-huaweirouterstatus.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-huaweirouterdeviceinformationwlan.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-huaweirouterdeviceinformationwan.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-huaweirouterbasiclandhcp.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-huaweirouterdeviceinformation.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-huaweirouterdeviceinformationethernet.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-huaweirouterbasicwan.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-huaweirouteradvanceddynamicrouting.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-huaweirouteradvancedfirewall.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-huaweirouterbasicwlan.png

When I try to get the network map on my study room PC it says no network devices detected. I am attaching the ipconfig /all file for my study room computer.
ipconfigstudyroom.txt

Also I am attaching the Network Connection Properties window from my study room PC
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-nomani-stdyroom_networkconnectiondetails.png

Now, I will details the status of devices in my bedroom.
a) From the socket I have used a cable to connect to the internet port in my Belkin Router N300.
b) From the LAN port of the Belkin Router to my Bedroom PC.

The ipconfig /all file from the Bedroom PC has these details:
ipconfigbedroom.txt

The Network Connection Properties has these details:
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-nomani-bedroom_networkconnectiondetails.png

And the Network Connection Map is so:
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-nomani-bedroom_networkmap.png

I have done this so that the Belkin Router can give me WIFI access in rooms close to my bedroom.

The Belkin System Log is here:
BELKIN_sys_log.txt

The details of the Belkin Router N300 router admin access page are as follows:
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-belkinrouterdhcpclientlist.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-belkinrouterfirewall.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-belkinrouterlansettings.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-belkinrouterstatus.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-belkinrouterwanconnectiontype.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-belkinrouterwandns.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-belkinrouterwanmacaddress.png

Now what I have already tried:
1. I have tried creating a homegroup on one PC and trying to join on the other, but it doesn't show the homegroup created by other PC.

2. I have simply tried to allow file sharing by going into the properties of certain folders and allowing sharing, but those folder are not displayed on the network or on the other PC. Also the both PCs are not detected by each other anyway, so file sharing I knew was pointless.

3. I tried to go to BELKIN router access page from the StudyRoom PC by using its LAN Address 192.168.1.105, this was to see if I can access that router through this PC, but that didn't work either.

Finally, what I would like to setup is a home network with file and printer sharing between both PC's through the wired network itself, without using a wireless connection.

Sorry, for such a long post but I wanted to be thorough and give you as many details as possible.

Thanks in advance.




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17 May 2014   #2
theveterans

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Use your Huawei router as DHCP server. Then use your Belkin as an Access Point so that it acts as a switch for your wired clients. This way all of the devices should be able to see one another on the network as long as the network profile is set to "home". As for printer, you can use homegroup to share printer but the PC has to be on and fully connected to network to work.
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17 May 2014   #3
tznomani

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Hi,

Thanks for the prompt reply.

Could you guide me as to what settings on both routers would I have to change ?

I understand what you are saying but how do I practically do it. If you could post me some details, or guide me to some threads which could help me setup both these routers as you mentioned, that would be extremely helpful.

Thanks.
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17 May 2014   #4
TheCyberMan

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

They are in different subnets is the answer.

192.168.1.0/24 is one subnet is what the huewei is using.

192.168.2.0/24 is one subnet is using.

Different subnets.

For Homegroup to work it has to be in the same subnet either 192.168.1.0/24 or 192.168.2.0/24.

theveterans is correct.

A Lan port to Lan port will put them in the same subnet and work.

Is there any reason for you to have a Belkin as well as Huwei maybe signal issues?

the veterans can take you tru it or I will take you thru a Lan port to Lan port connection.
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17 May 2014   #5
theveterans

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Thanks TheCyberMan. I'll give the guide.

First take a look at your screenshot here: http://www.sevenforums.com/attachmen...siclandhcp.png

It says the DHCP server ranges from 192.168.1.101 to 192.168.1.254

The trick is to change your Belkin's IP address to anything outside of 192.168.1.101 to 192.168.1.254
However, for maximum compatibility, keep the Belkin's IP between 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.99
As you can see the "192.168.1." is the one of the factors for all of your devices to see each other on the same network.

As an example, you can set your Belkin's IP to 192.168.1.99 and that should work. Just go to "LAN" settings in your Belkin and change the IP to 192.168.1.99

After changing, you must unplug your Ethernet on the Belkin then reconnect it so that Windows can obtain the new IP from the Belkin. Go to your Belkin's configuration by typing 192.168.1.99 on your browser.
If successful, you should be able to go the Belkin's configuration with the new IP

Finally, confirm that the subnet mask for Huawei and Belkin are both 255.255.255.0 (another factor to ensure all devices see each other) If not the same, just make both 255.255.255.0 on the LAN page (not WAN)

Do not connect both routers on LAN to LAN yet as there's one more final step to do


On the Belkin's LAN settings (with the new IP of course), Turn off the DHCP Server. This is so that the Belkin doesn't supply its own IP lease to the clients connected to it. The Belkin at this point is now setup as Access Point.

At this point, you may not be able to go to your Belkin router settings. It's normal because the Belkin is not "leasing" an IP to Windows (not sure if this is the correct reason).

Disconnect your Belkin from computer and connect it to the Huawei. Then reboot the Belkin manually (i.e. unplug and replug the power). When the Belkin is ready, connect your computer to the belkin and another computer to the Huawei. Both should see each other provided that both computers are set to "home" network.
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17 May 2014   #6
TheCyberMan

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Match the wireless settings and security of your belkin to the huawei wireless settings and security as well.
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18 May 2014   #7
tznomani

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Hi,

Ok so far so good. I converted the Belkin Router N300 to an access point. I am still getting my wireless signal on my wifi devices from the Belkin Router as before. Also I changed the Belkin Router IP address to 192.168.1.99 and now on my Huawei Router status it shows both computers connected Nomani-StdyRoom as well as Nomani-BedRoom. However, both computer still don't detect each other through Windows. I tried making a home group on one and then trying to locate and join on the other and vice versa both don't detect each other still.

This is the ipconfig file from the Bedroom PC after changes:
ipconfigbedroom.txt

This is the ipconfig file from the Studyroom PC after changes:
ipconfigstdyroom.txt

These are the new BELKIN Router settings which show that I have enabled access point mode:
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-belkinchangedtoaccesspoint.png

And these are the BELKIN Router new LAN Settings:
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-belkinnewlansettings.png

Finally, the Huawei Router status which shows both computers connected to its LAN network:
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-huaweirouterchangedstatus.png

And here is the Huawei Router DHCP Server settings:
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-huaweirouterdhcpserversettings.png

Please guide me from here as to what to do from here. My study room PC has Microsoft security essentials anti virus and windows firewall, and the bedroom doesn't even have an anti virus and using Windows firewall as well.

I was going to install free home avast antivirus on both but I wanted to wait until this network and firewall issues are cleared up.

Thanks for you help so far. And further help would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.


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18 May 2014   #8
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

There is no need to mess with the IP on the Belkin router at all. You guys are over thinking this quite a bit and for no apparent reason.

Simply disable DHCP on the Belkin, the first router will eventually assign the Belkin an IP in the correct subnet automatically. I've helped many others with the same problem and this works.

There is no reason to do this manually and it only makes the process harder to set up again should the router require a reset.

Connect the two routers LAN port to LAN port. The modem appears to be missing from the map as well.
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18 May 2014   #9
tznomani

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Hi,

As I told you before my two computers were not detecting each other even though both were shown in the status window of my Huawei Router.

So I took your advice didn't mess with anymore settings and just disconnected all the devices, shut down both PCs and then started the systems in this order:
1) Huawei Router (which is the DHCP server also)
2) Belkin Router (which is configured as an access point with IP Address: 192.168.1.99)
3) Started both PCs

Now both the PCs detect each other, here is the network map and network devices detected from my Stdyroom PC:

How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-networkmapstdyroom.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-networkdevicesstdyroom.png

And here is the network map and network devices detected from my Bedroom PC:

How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-networkmapbedroom.png
How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-networkdevicesbedroom.png

As, you can see both are connected and detecting each other. Also created a HomeGroup on my StudyRoom PC as you can see in the image below, the home group is created and says: "Joined"

How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-networkandsharingcenterstdyroom.png

However when I tried joining in the other room, but it doesnot detect this homegroup. So here is what I tried:
a) I restarted the PC, but still it didn't detect the Homegroup
b) Then I ran the HomeGroup troubleshooter, but neither did it find the HomeGroup nor it solved the problem.

So, what could be the problem now, could anyone guide me. As I mentioned before both PC's are using Windows Firewall. I am also attaching below and image of the firewall settings of the main Huawei Router which is also the DHCP server, as you can see the firewall is set on standard, do you think I should disable it ??

How do I create a Wired Home Network ?-huaweirouterfirewallsettings.png

Now, really confused as to what could be the problem, any help would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance.


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18 May 2014   #10
TheCyberMan

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote:
There is no need to mess with the IP on the Belkin router at all. You guys are over thinking this quite a bit and for no apparent reason.
No over thinking there we don't have to do an ipconfig or ipconfig /all look at default gateway do we, we have a fixed IP address.

Can you ping normani study room and normani bedroom and post results please mark them so we know which is which please?
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