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Windows 7: Wired vs. Wireless Woes


04 Nov 2009   #1

Windows Vista
 
 
Wired vs. Wireless Woes

Here's the setup:
1 home desktop wired (Windows 7 Premium)
1 work desktop wired (Windows 7 Premium)
1 work laptop wireless(Vista Business)
1 laptop wireless (kids) running Vista Home
1 laptop wireless (kids) running XP

just added
1 netbook (wife) with Win 7 starter

Fought homegroup, so turned that off on all Windows 7 machines.

Every computer on the network can see the netbook (and all other computers). But you can't connect to it.
On the netbook, it can not see any wired computer, but can see the wireless computer (other than the Vista business computer). So I hooked an ethernet cable and the netbook can see the entire network.
All computers belong to WORKGROUP. The netbook can connect to the router and internet just fine. End result is I need to see the network so my wife can print from the internet to the network printer (on my main desktop). I'm pretty good when it comes to working this stuff out (had computers since 1984), but I spent the better part of this afternoon to no avail.

So any ideas or suggestions are welcomed.


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04 Nov 2009   #2

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dnelms View Post
Here's the setup:
1 home desktop wired (Windows 7 Premium)
1 work desktop wired (Windows 7 Premium)
1 work laptop wireless(Vista Business)
1 laptop wireless (kids) running Vista Home
1 laptop wireless (kids) running XP

just added
1 netbook (wife) with Win 7 starter

Fought homegroup, so turned that off on all Windows 7 machines.

Every computer on the network can see the netbook (and all other computers). But you can't connect to it.
On the netbook, it can not see any wired computer, but can see the wireless computer (other than the Vista business computer). So I hooked an ethernet cable and the netbook can see the entire network.
All computers belong to WORKGROUP. The netbook can connect to the router and internet just fine. End result is I need to see the network so my wife can print from the internet to the network printer (on my main desktop). I'm pretty good when it comes to working this stuff out (had computers since 1984), but I spent the better part of this afternoon to no avail.

So any ideas or suggestions are welcomed.
hi and welcome to sevenforums

Question. what firewall and av is on the netbook?

Nice post BTW

Ken
My System SpecsSystem Spec
04 Nov 2009   #3

Windows Vista
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dnelms View Post
Here's the setup:
1 home desktop wired (Windows 7 Premium)
1 work desktop wired (Windows 7 Premium)
1 work laptop wireless(Vista Business)
1 laptop wireless (kids) running Vista Home
1 laptop wireless (kids) running XP

just added
1 netbook (wife) with Win 7 starter

Fought homegroup, so turned that off on all Windows 7 machines.

Every computer on the network can see the netbook (and all other computers). But you can't connect to it.
On the netbook, it can not see any wired computer, but can see the wireless computer (other than the Vista business computer). So I hooked an ethernet cable and the netbook can see the entire network.
All computers belong to WORKGROUP. The netbook can connect to the router and internet just fine. End result is I need to see the network so my wife can print from the internet to the network printer (on my main desktop). I'm pretty good when it comes to working this stuff out (had computers since 1984), but I spent the better part of this afternoon to no avail.

So any ideas or suggestions are welcomed.
hi and welcome to sevenforums

Question. what firewall and av is on the netbook?

Nice post BTW

Ken
running Windows Firewall and Microsoft Security Essentials on every Win 7 computer.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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04 Nov 2009   #4
aem

Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
 
 

Which machine is the printer physically connected to?

When you hooked the wife's machine up to ethernet is she able to print?
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04 Nov 2009   #5

Windows Vista
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by aem View Post
Which machine is the printer physically connected to?

When you hooked the wife's machine up to ethernet is she able to print?
My main desktop (running Win 7 Premium) is where the printer is hooked up to. The printer is shared.

I went back and plugged the ethernet back in and it did discover the printer and would print.

Just something that will not allow the netbook to see the rest of the network. Network discovery is on.
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05 Nov 2009   #6
aem

Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
 
 

Printing to that printer doesn't reqiuire you to be put in the Homegroup. You can do it the conventional way...leave the Homegroup discovery option out for now and see if you can print to the printer wirelessly. Does the printer have wireless connections to it?
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05 Nov 2009   #7

Windows Vista
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by aem View Post
Printing to that printer doesn't reqiuire you to be put in the Homegroup. You can do it the conventional way...leave the Homegroup discovery option out for now and see if you can print to the printer wirelessly. Does the printer have wireless connections to it?
Printing is not wireless. As stated previously, nothing is on a homegroup as I could never get it to work. Works fine between the wired machine, but not the wireless netbook.
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05 Nov 2009   #8
aem

Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
 
 

"Printing is not wireless."

I asked if the printer has wireless capabilties?
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05 Nov 2009   #9

Windows Vista
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by aem View Post
"Printing is not wireless."

I asked if the printer has wireless capabilties?
No, it has no wireless capabilities (other than Bluetooth and that it not on the netbook to test)
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05 Nov 2009   #10

Windows Vista
 
 

Thought I'd try something this morning. I change the wireless adapter settings to use a static IP address. I chose a high number (192.168.11.25) so I was sure I would not interfere with any devices the DHCP server was handing out.

So I try to ping that address from other places, it times out every single time.

This is got me stumped. On the other hand if all I'm after in the end (other than it irritates me when I can't figure something out) is for my wife to be able to print from her netbook, then adding a bluetooth adapter on the USB port would talk to my printer (it has a Bluetooth adapter added)... am I looking at that part right?
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