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Windows 7: Networking will not see non-windows 7 computers.


25 Nov 2009   #1

windows 7
 
 
Networking will not see non-windows 7 computers.

Hello.

I've spent 2-3 days now trying to solve the networking mysteries of Win 7.

In a nutshell. This computer (Windows 7-64) cannot see the other computers and shares on our small studio network except for the windows 7 machines (also Windows 7-64). (the other computers/shares are all XP)

We have 2 identical machines side by side, one can see all the computers, this one cannot. Both are fresh installs.

There are approx 8 other machines/shares on the network.

Both computers have vista installed on a seperate drive that see the network fine if booted into.

Both have homegroup turned off, and have workgroup enabled with the same workgroup name "WORKGROUP". Both have discovery and file sharing enabled. Both use the same network controller, and have the same updated Windows 7 driver.

-I have tried turning on/off iv6 (which I see some people think/don't think is an issue).
-I have disabled FIREWALL
-I have disabled anti-virus
-I have rebooted after each change
-I have tried different locations/cables on the hub
-I have tried the cable/hub location on the Windows 7 computer that is seeing the network computers.

ps. I forgot to mention that if I type in the IP address in addres bar I can access one of the other machines, but it will not show up in the network window.


I am really at a loss, and have read about every post I can find, and tried every suggestion.

Any further assistance would be much appreciated.

Thank you.

Steve.

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25 Nov 2009   #2

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by iguana View Post
Hello.

I've spent 2-3 days now trying to solve the networking mysteries of Win 7.

In a nutshell. This computer (Windows 7-64) cannot see the other computers and shares on our small studio network except for the windows 7 machines (also Windows 7-64). (the other computers/shares are all XP)

We have 2 identical machines side by side, one can see all the computers, this one cannot. Both are fresh installs.

There are approx 8 other machines/shares on the network.

Both computers have vista installed on a seperate drive that see the network fine if booted into.

Both have homegroup turned off, and have workgroup enabled with the same workgroup name "WORKGROUP". Both have discovery and file sharing enabled. Both use the same network controller, and have the same updated Windows 7 driver.

-I have tried turning on/off iv6 (which I see some people think/don't think is an issue).
-I have disabled FIREWALL
-I have disabled anti-virus
-I have rebooted after each change
-I have tried different locations/cables on the hub
-I have tried the cable/hub location on the Windows 7 computer that is seeing the network computers.

ps. I forgot to mention that if I type in the IP address in addres bar I can access one of the other machines, but it will not show up in the network window.


I am really at a loss, and have read about every post I can find, and tried every suggestion.

Any further assistance would be much appreciated.

Thank you.

Steve.
Do you mean, cannot see or cannot access? Do all machines have ''eveyone'' set in permissions?
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25 Nov 2009   #3

windows 7
 
 

I mean I cannot "see" them, effectively.

The Network window shows only the windows 7 computers.

If I ping and directly type in the IP of one of the other computers (xp-64) I can access it through an explorer window. But I cannot get it to show up in the network window.

If you need any other info or clarification, please let me know.

Steve.
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25 Nov 2009   #4

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Hello iguana and welcome to the forum. I have often found that your issues can be related to third party AntiVirus / Internet Security Suites and or third party firewalls and simply disabling them often does not prove to be enough to actually resolve the problem. Sometimes a reboot into safemode with networking will expose this problem or perhaps try uninstalling them temporarily for testing purposes. Just something to try.
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25 Nov 2009   #5

windows 7
 
 

I removed the ESET antivirus from the machine, and the firewall is disabled (MS Firewall).

It doesn't seem to make any difference.

:\

Steve.
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25 Nov 2009   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Sorry, that was not help. Eset is almost certainly not an issue, I don't remember hearing of any problems with it. Did you try the safe mode with networking thing, just to see if the problem persisted with no extraneous programs and services loading. Something his beating up on Network Discovery, not sure what it might be.
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25 Nov 2009   #7

windows 7
 
 

I booted into safe mode with networking, and went to the Network window. Nothing showed up in it.

But if I manually typed in the IP address of one of the winXP-64 boxes, I could access the shares, like I could in non-safe mode.

I can ping other computers, and from them can ping to this Windows 7 box.

The original post still persists.

Thanks for any suggestions.


Steve.
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25 Nov 2009   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Check services...Start>run>services.msc, check SSDP Discovery and TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper make sure they are on.
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25 Nov 2009   #9

windows 7
 
 

yes both are running, (Started), Manual, Local Service.

(frustrating isn't it).

Steve.
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25 Nov 2009   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Been trying to duplicate you issue here and was able to do so by disabling Netbios over TCP/IP on my nic under the wins tab for tcp/ip v.4, Take a look and see if perhaps you have that set to disable, if so just set it to enable and see if helps. May have to reboot not sure
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