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Windows 7: Layman's terms please

10 Dec 2009   #1
noob1111

Windows 7
 
 
Layman's terms please

Ok, I have read through many of the discussions so please don't post a link to another thread. What I want to do is be able to remotely connect to my home computers when I go on vacation in a week. I understand how to set up the connection while on the same local network, meaning when we have 2 computers at the same location under the same router I can remotely connect easily. But how to I do it when I am 2,000 miles away. I need very basic step by step help please. I am using windows 7 ultimate.
Do I need to set up a DNS (whatever that is)?
Do I need to use something like gotomypc.com?
Do I need to adjust something?

Please let me know as simply as you possible can. I'm not very computer literate.


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10 Dec 2009   #2
DC187

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

One quick easy solution would be to use logmein https://secure.logmein.com
You create an account
Visit the website on the two PC's you wish to access remotely, goto My Computers and select to add a computer, then select to install the free version of logmein.
This now means to access your two PC's remotely you just visit the logmein site and select the computer you wish to remote control.

There are other ways of doing this but will involve going into the subject at a deeper technical level.
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10 Dec 2009   #3
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

Hello Noob, welcome to the Seven Forums.

I see no point re-typing the content of this tutorial from our excellent Tutorials section only because you don't want to have any links.

Read the tutorial.

Kari
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10 Dec 2009   #4
FuturDreamz

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
Hello Noob, welcome to the Seven Forums.

I see no point re-typing the content of this tutorial from our excellent Tutorials section only because you don't want to have any links.

Read the tutorial.

Kari
Quote:
7. Remote Desktop Connection behind a router (Single computer)
A) Configure your router's port forwarding to allow connections on port 3389
B) Now in RDC just type the IP address supplied by your ISP
this I believe needs to be expanded and explained, as according to what noob1111 says, RDC for within the network is already set up and just want to figure out how to connect from off the network.
if we knew what the router was (eg, D-Ling wrtg 54), we could give you the instructions, noob1111.
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10 Dec 2009   #5
noob1111

Windows 7
 
 

the router is netgear wireless G.

And thanks IceFire because I did look at that tutorial.

I guess in the end the problem may be that while remotw access is possible with Windows 7, it is not as convenient as I had thought. Meaning I can connect while in the same household, while accessing internet through the same router. But if I go somewhere outside the Local Area Network then Windows 7 does not allow easy accessibility to remote access. Is this basically the case? In that tutorial that Kari posted I don't know what the hell they are talking about when they say

"A) For each computer you want to remotely connect to you have to configure each computer to listen to different ports to avoid port conflicts by changing the registry key in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\TerminalServer\WinStations\RDP-Tcp\PortNumber".

Maybe this means that I have no business trying to set up remote access the way I want it. However it was my understanding that Windows 7 made this process easy.
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10 Dec 2009   #6
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by noob1111 View Post
the router is netgear wireless G.

And thanks IceFire because I did look at that tutorial.

I guess in the end the problem may be that while remotw access is possible with Windows 7, it is not as convenient as I had thought. Meaning I can connect while in the same household, while accessing internet through the same router. But if I go somewhere outside the Local Area Network then Windows 7 does not allow easy accessibility to remote access. Is this basically the case? In that tutorial that Kari posted I don't know what the hell they are talking about when they say

"A) For each computer you want to remotely connect to you have to configure each computer to listen to different ports to avoid port conflicts by changing the registry key in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\TerminalServer\WinStations\RDP-Tcp\PortNumber".

Maybe this means that I have no business trying to set up remote access the way I want it. However it was my understanding that Windows 7 made this process easy.
You said: But if I go somewhere outside the Local Area Network then Windows 7 does not allow easy accessibility to remote access. Is this basically the case?

Is completely untrue, if you can read and follow instructions you can connect remotely. As always a certain amount of computer know how will be required. It's one of those deals, once you do it the first time it's easier after that.

Those turtorials make it easy in my opinion but if you have parts of the tutorial you don't understand just post the relevent picture or topic and we can help you with it.
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10 Dec 2009   #7
noob1111

Windows 7
 
 

Ok, good to hear, i'm regaining confidence here.

Here is the section that I want to know about:

7. Remote Desktop Connection behind a router (Single computer)
A) Configure your router's port forwarding to allow connections on port 3389
B) Now in RDC just type the IP address supplied by your ISP


Does "remote desktop connection behind a router (single computer)" mean that these are the steps I should take if I want to use 1 single computer as my host to which any computers I choose can connect?

Next question is how do I "Configure your router's port forwarding to allow connections on port 3389" ????

Thanks!
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10 Dec 2009   #8
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Depends on which router you have, the procedure is a bit different depending on the brand. This type of info can be easily looked up for your particular router. I can look it up for you if I knew what brand of router you have? I have no idea at this point.

Setting up port forwarding on your router will allow you to connect to any computer on your network from a remote computer, depending on the settings and IP used you can choose which computer you want to get into remotely.
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10 Dec 2009   #9
DC187

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Maybe it would help to understand why you have this problem.

Your internet connection has a single IP address.
When your internal network traverses the router out to the internet, Network Address Translation (NAT) takes place, this means that any machine on your internal network will be sharing the single IP address of your external network.
Thus if you go the other way there is no way of determining which machine traffic will be sent to.

There are a few ways around this of course:
- Request a pool of static IP Addresses from your ISP and setup Network Address Translation so PC's you specify can have their own external IP address. No doubt a pricey option and not many home class ISP's provide pools of IP Addresses.
- Use a router with Port Address Translation (PAT), this means you can setup a port on the external interface to translate to a different port on the internal network. So for example you could open up port 3389 to 192.168.1.10, open port 3390 and apply PAT to 3389 to 192.168.1.20
- Use the above tutorial and port forward the appropriate ports
- Use a service like logmein which is completely free and effortless to setup and doesn't require you to modify anything.

I hope that makes sense and hasn't confused further.
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10 Dec 2009   #10
FuturDreamz

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
 
 

I'm pretty sure the router is a "netgear wireless g" but is it a wgt624 or a wtr614l or what?
it should say on the bottom or on the front, and it should be a large size text similar to wtr614l or wgt 624 or something
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