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Windows 7: W7 cannot see workgroup computers


15 Jan 2010   #1

Win 7
 
 
W7 cannot see workgroup computers

Ok, I've done my best due diligence this afternoon and am crying "UNCLE!!"

My Windows 7 machine cannot see other workgroup computers (a vista laptop and a linux box). The vista laptop CAN see the other two, can access files on the linux box, but i get the error "network path not found" when trying to explore the Windows 7 box. I'm using a trendnet tew 632 wireless router the the linux box is wired to, the vista laptop and Windows 7 box are wirelessly connected (there is a linksys range expander used as well). Web connection is fine.

I have not created a "homegroup". I have created the same "workgroup" for all computers. I have enabled network discovery and file sharing with no passwords. I can ping the linux box and the laptop from the Windows 7 machine no problem. I beleieve i have enabled all appropriate services.

The Linksys WMP110 RangePlus Wireless PCI Adapter has the current driver, proper NIC's are enabled (i think thats the right term), and i enabled netBios over tcp/ip.

Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated!!

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15 Jan 2010   #2

Windows 7
 
 

I don't believe he ever created a homegroup in the first place.

Can you reach the network shares using the UNC?

like \\Windows 7 computer\Share_Name
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16 Jan 2010   #3
aem

Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
 
 

Forget Homegroup as you have 3 machines with 3 different OSs. I think the best way to start looking at this issue, is to check the ipconfigs of the machines (not a lunix person so i wouldn't know much about that).

For vista and Windows 7, show us the ipconfig details please.

I have seen too many people who relies too much on workgroups/homegroups just to do simple things as file sharing...why?
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16 Jan 2010   #4

Windows 7
 
 

I'm pretty sure he means "Workgroup" as in NetBIOS.
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16 Jan 2010   #5

Win 7
 
 

[QUOTE=aem;508802
I have seen too many people who relies too much on workgroups/homegroups just to do simple things as file sharing...why?[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the assistance!! is there a more basic way to share files and do remote desktop? I was under the impression that you had to have a "workgroup" declared for all computers. btw, i have no "homegroup" created in Windows 7.

Here is the ipconfig for the Windows 7 machine:

*************************************

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\juanzo007>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : John-office
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8168B/8111B Family PCI-E Gigab
it Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-DB-B1-D7-52
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys WMP110 RangePlus Wireless PCI Ada
pter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-6B-A3-D8-B0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::713e:ebb:845a:38e4%10(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.103(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, January 15, 2010 3:41:55 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:59:18 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 285221483
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-10-B4-A9-1E-00-19-DB-B1-D7-52

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.{801E9D1D-AF07-416B-B2DF-1FD64B336340}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e50:c80:13fe:ba13:b8e9(Prefe
rred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::c80:13fe:ba13:b8e9%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Users\juanzo007>
C:\Users\juanzo007>

************************************************

And the ipconfig for the laptop:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\john>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : tablet
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-21-00-98-59-D8
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4cde:df90:8f04:cd60%11(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.109(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:51:56 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:51:56 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) Family PCI-E
Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-23-8B-54-40-3C
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{A87A3AAB-9538-465B-AD93-EBDA601BE
80B}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:5ef5:73bc:cbe:14c7:ba13:b8e9(Prefe
rred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::cbe:14c7:ba13:b8e9%12(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 13:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 14:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{1F93C252-BFE4-4A4B-9C79-5B8F469D5
114}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes


*****************************************


Thanks again for your help and education!!


John
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16 Jan 2010   #6

Windows 7
 
 

from your Vista box, can you address the Windows 7 shares by IP address? This will help narrow things down.

From the vista laptop..
\\192.168.10.103\share name
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16 Jan 2010   #7
aem

Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
 
 

As surfasb stated. But have your shares been shared out correctly and what username/password to use.

See my File Sharing Tut in my sig. XP or vista, don't matter the principle is the same.
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16 Jan 2010   #8

Windows 7
 
 

I'm sure glad you guys have those tutorials linked. Makes things about 10000 times faster...
My System SpecsSystem Spec
19 Jan 2010   #9

Win 7
 
 

Hey folks,

Sorry for the tardy reply... Well, I'm not sure what happened. I used "Windows 7 Manager" to optimize my system, and now the Windows 7 machine can access the linux box without issue. Go figure...

Still can't get remote desktop to work though. router is configured on port 3389, Windows 7 firewall is configured to allow outgoing connections on domain and public on all ports. The error message I get is that the remote computer is not configured, is not on, etc... I do have RDC enabled on the linux box, allow control, password, etc. so i don't know really what else may be going on.

Thanks for your help!
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