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Windows 7: Wireless N Router + ADSL2 Modem/Router


06 Feb 2010   #1

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 
Wireless N Router + ADSL2 Modem/Router

Hi guys I'm new here so please be nice


OK! so before i changed to TPG ADSL2+ i used to be on optus cable using a Netgear Wireless N router. then when i got TPG, i need a router but found out i had to get a combo modem/router. so i got an Open Networks 824RLW which has wireless G.

This unfortunately in my double brick double story house isn't good enough for some pc's. So i know there is a way to do it but i dont know what it is... I'd like to disable the wireless (G) of the Open Networks and keep the modem of it working (and possibly the ethernet ports) and connect my Netgear Wireless N router and use it for wireless (N) and wired networking.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks, Assassin.

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07 Feb 2010   #2

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Welcome to Seven Forums!

You can certainly do what you describe. It will come down to reconfiguring the two routers.

First, reconfigure the ADSL router (824RLW) to turn off the wireless. I looked at the manual and you can disable the WLAN.

Next, on the old "N" router, disable the DHCP server. This will prevent it from handing out addresses. Also give the NetGear router's LAN port a static IP address on the same subnet as the 824RLW. make it's outside the DHCP range though.

This last piece is important. Connect a cable from one of the four LAN ports on the 824RLW to one of the LAN ports on the old "N" router. NOT the WAN port! The routers have two sides, WAN (Internet) and LAN (Inside). The radio and the switch ports are on the same side (LAN). That's the side you want.

By doing this you bypass the Netgear's router function completely.
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07 Feb 2010   #3

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RedBirdDad View Post
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Also give the NetGear router's LAN port a static IP address on the same subnet as the 824RLW. make it's outside the DHCP range though.
Thanks for your time, i just dont understand the above quoted, no clue how to do that.

Also, i understand the wiring part, but will i be able to use all 6 remaining LAN ports (3 on ADSL router and 3 on Netgear)?
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08 Feb 2010   #4

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You want the Netgear and the 824RLW to be in the same IP address space.

For example: Let' say the Netgear's LAN interface is 192.168.1.1. It also has a DHCP server that hands out addresses in the range of 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.254. The 824RLW uses 192.168.0.1 as it's LAN interface IP address and it too has a DHCP server. It hands out addresses from 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.100.

The two are on different IP spaces. 192.168.1.x and 192.168.0.x. You want them to be in the same space so you can manage both.

Turn off the DHPC server on the Netgear. You don't want it AND the 824RLW handing out addresses. Life will get very confusing if you don't.

Reconfigure the NetGear's LAN interface to be 192.168.0."X" where is outside the DHCP range of the 824RLW (192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.100). So you could pick 192.168.0.110 for example.

As for the left over LAN ports, you can use still use them. Anything connected to them will get an address from the 824RLW.
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08 Feb 2010   #5

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Assassin151 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RedBirdDad View Post
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Also give the NetGear router's LAN port a static IP address on the same subnet as the 824RLW. make it's outside the DHCP range though.
Thanks for your time, i just dont understand the above quoted, no clue how to do that.

Also, i understand the wiring part, but will i be able to use all 6 remaining LAN ports (3 on ADSL router and 3 on Netgear)?
I understood the procedure perfectly RedBird very well said., Of course it's easier for you and I to understand but not so easy for the average user.

If Assassian151 doesn't understand this setup procedure or if he just wants to do this the easy way, and if 25-45 more bucks isn't a problem, he might be better off simply purchasing a new switch instead of using the second router as a switch.

This will save you from having to do the manual set up procedure so it will be easier to set up and will probably be more reliable also.

The dual router set up isn't really a supported feature but it can be made to work.
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08 Feb 2010   #6

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All we're doing it turning the Netgear router into a basic AP. It's not the switch or router functions we need. Just the radio.

I agree it's a bit of a challenge to explain. I may have been too technical again.

I actually did this on my old NetGear wireless router a few years ago. I had a wired only router and wanted just a simple dumb AP. Just disable the DHCP server in the Netgear, connect to the LAN (switch) port and bingo! Dumb AP.
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08 Feb 2010   #7

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RedBirdDad View Post
All we're doing it turning the Netgear router into a basic AP. It's not the switch or router functions we need. Just the radio.

I agree it's a bit of a challenge to explain. I may have been too technical again.

I actually did this on my old NetGear wireless router a few years ago. I had a wired only router and wanted just a simple dumb AP. Just disable the DHCP server in the Netgear, connect to the LAN (switch) port and bingo! Dumb AP.
It looks easy to me anyway, the explanation was plenty good I think but the user needs to understand what DHCP means and all that stuff. I tried to explain the set up to a guy here just last week but he went with my first advice about purchasing a switch.

I have another Dlink gaming router that I want to do this with just to see if it will work.

D-link even has a web page that describes how to use your router as a switch but they say that it's not a supported setup.
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08 Feb 2010   #8

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Agreed.

I'm anxious to see how he does. I may just do up a diagram for this kind of thing and make it a tutorial. What do you think?
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09 Feb 2010   #9

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
I understood the procedure perfectly RedBird very well said., Of course it's easier for you and I to understand but not so easy for the average user.

If Assassian151 doesn't understand this setup procedure or if he just wants to do this the easy way,
Ok, i hope i dont offend in any way, but I'm not trying to go an easy way by asking for someone's help, i just want to make sure of the procedure before i commence with it.

I concur with you, RedBirdDad explained it perfectly not too technical at all, in fact i understand what DHCP is i just wasnt 100% sure of what he meant but putting it on the same subnet, but the 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.1.1 explained it perfectly.

I'll have a look for everything i need to change in router settings and hopefully get this done when i have time. I will let you know how it goes

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RedBirdDad View Post

I'm anxious to see how he does.
I will achieve VICTORY! just you wait and see
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09 Feb 2010   #10

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Go for it! Let me know how you do.
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