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Windows 7: slow networking speeds

10 Mar 2010   #1
simmsgre

Windows 7 Ulitimate 64-bit
 
 
slow networking speeds

hello,
I have two win 7 machines, my main rig is win 7 64bit and the other an HTPC running win 7 32 bit fresh install. file transfer and sharing works without a hitch and I am running both on gigabit with cat 6 cables and showing in hardware config. speeds will top out at 8-9 mb/sec for some reason and does so for any and every file. Transfering a 20gb file takes quite a while. Any suggestions? Thanks


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10 Mar 2010   #2
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by simmsgre View Post
hello,
I have two win 7 machines, my main rig is win 7 64bit and the other an HTPC running win 7 32 bit fresh install. file transfer and sharing works without a hitch and I am running both on gigabit with cat 6 cables and showing in hardware config. speeds will top out at 8-9 mb/sec for some reason and does so for any and every file. Transfering a 20gb file takes quite a while. Any suggestions? Thanks
I suspect you are using homegroup for networking. One some systems homegroup can cause slow transfer, connectivity issues, etc. You can verify this by simply setting up a new network connection and using the workgroup model instead.. workgroup uses IPv4, homegroup uses IPv6. Some hardware does not yet fully support IPv6 support.

Ken
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10 Mar 2010   #3
ultraplanet

Windows 7
 
 

The router or switch between the machines is also gigabit?
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11 Mar 2010   #4
simmsgre

Windows 7 Ulitimate 64-bit
 
 

my appologies for leaving out specifics. they are both not on a homegroup and yes the switch is gigabit and the nics on both comps are reporting gigabit speeds.
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14 Apr 2010   #5
MadMax1412

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

[QUOTE=zigzag3143;616300]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by simmsgre View Post
I suspect you are using homegroup for networking. One some systems homegroup can cause slow transfer, connectivity issues, etc. You can verify this by simply setting up a new network connection and using the workgroup model instead.. workgroup uses IPv4, homegroup uses IPv6. Some hardware does not yet fully support IPv6 support.

Ken
Ken,

I'm having terrible problems with my Win7 64-bit computer and it's transfer to either my WinXP box or my NAS box (Thecus N2200). Speeds used to be fairly quick but over time it's just degraded. It's now at the point where it won't connect to the network.

I'm therefore thinking of doing a repair install as shown at Repair Install .

If I was to do this, how to I setup a workgroup connection rather than a homegroup connection? Is it simply done by not joining a homegroup?

Thanks
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14 Apr 2010   #6
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

[QUOTE=MadMax1412;684841]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by simmsgre View Post
I suspect you are using homegroup for networking. One some systems homegroup can cause slow transfer, connectivity issues, etc. You can verify this by simply setting up a new network connection and using the workgroup model instead.. workgroup uses IPv4, homegroup uses IPv6. Some hardware does not yet fully support IPv6 support.

Ken


If I was to do this, how to I setup a workgroup connection rather than a homegroup connection? Is it simply done by not joining a homegroup?

Thanks
I think maybe if you're allowed to do so...change the way of your network, this will desactivated the Homegroup settings to Workgroup...and this will parameter the firewall to this network. You can either doing it if you're not allowed to set the network, at the second pic. You'll have as well to set the DNS Name (WORKGROUP) in the advanced properties of your card.
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14 Apr 2010   #7
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Homegroups has absolutely nothing, zero, zip nadda, not one thing to do with how fast your transfer speeds are and yes I have tested this six ways to Sunday. Some of the BS I hear around here is utterly rediculous.
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14 Apr 2010   #8
MadMax1412

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

All I know at the moment is that my networking of my Win7 computer is so all over the place that the best thing probably is to do a repair install.

This is because I've:
  • tried NIC drivers from Windows Update, Realtek, Gigabyte (mobo);
  • changed registry settings
  • changed network homegroup settings
  • changed NIC settings (eg auto-negotiate speed, etc)
  • and so on

All based on suggestions from my questions on various forums plus reading other similar problem threads.

Cheers
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14 Apr 2010   #9
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMax1412 View Post
All I know at the moment is that my networking of my Win7 computer is so all over the place that the best thing probably is to do a repair install.

This is because I've:
  • tried NIC drivers from Windows Update, Realtek, Gigabyte (mobo);
  • changed registry settings
  • changed network homegroup settings
  • changed NIC settings (eg auto-negotiate speed, etc)
  • and so on
All based on suggestions from my questions on various forums plus reading other similar problem threads.

Cheers
Well, registry settings are not always at ease to use...unless you know how to undo.
Could tried those settings, when you'll have repaired.

Networking run smooth here, (Win7=>Vista=>Xp) in general. I haven't tried through 2 Win7 yet.
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22 Apr 2010   #10
MadMax1412

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Guys,

Since my last posting a week ago, I tried doing the repair install. Although the install itself worked fine, my network capability was still a shambles, even after following up the install with the install of the mobo chipset drivers and the Win7-64 bit drivers for the NIC from the Gigabyte mobo page.

I then went the whole hog and did a format of the partition and reinstalled the OS from scratch. Installed the drivers, did Windows update and still transfers were slow at less than 90kb/second to my NAS box. At the same time, transfers of the same sized files don't take that long when transferring from my WinXP to my NAS box. (I have TV cards on both WinXP and Win7 computer and store the resulting files on the NAS box to be viewed by Network Media Players).

I have even tried assigning a specific IP address to the NIC - still no luck.

I then went to Black Viper's website to tweak the services (see Windows 7 Service Configurations by Black Viper) with no increase in network transfer speed.

Is there anywhere where I can see what might be the cause of the slow transfer's?? Would it be something to do with IP6? MTU sizes? Auto-negotiate vs setting a set speed? Some service that's started (or not started)?

ZigZag3143 wrote earlier:

Quote:
I suspect you are using homegroup for networking. One some systems homegroup can cause slow transfer, connectivity issues, etc. You can verify this by simply setting up a new network connection and using the workgroup model instead.. workgroup uses IPv4, homegroup uses IPv6. Some hardware does not yet fully support IPv6 support.
When I did the repair Install, and the fresh install, when it came to the prompt for networking, it had "Home", "Office", "Public" (I think they were the 3, but you'll know which ones I mean). I could not skip pass this so I think it forced me to use a homegroup for networking. How can I turn this off and use just use workgroup networking?

++ EDIT ++

I found a thread which describes how to leave a homegroup and use workgroups

3 PC Network Sharing
Homegroup - Leave

++ END EDIT ++

Regards
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