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Windows 7: Having trouble with W7 & XP home network setup


10 Mar 2010   #1

Windows 7 Pro 64bit SP1
 
 
Having trouble with W7 & XP home network setup

Trying to setup home network with same machines but with 2 of the desktops recently upgraded to Windows 7 Pro. Here's the breakdown:

2 Desktops running new Windows 7 Pro systems - (hardwired)
1 Desktop running XP Pro SP3 - (hardwired)
2 laptops running XP Home Ed SP3 (Wireless)

Attached is a shot of what the main desktop (Home_Desktop Windows 7 Pro) finds in Networks (allnetworks.jpg):

Home_Desktop finds all but one laptop (RoadWorrior) but... will not connect to Lower_Office...I get the attached error window (network.jpg)

No issues connecting to MaryAnn-PC (Win 7 Pro SP3) and/or Maryannslaptop (XP HE SP3)

However...from Lower_Office XP Pro desktop...I can connect and move files back and forth from Home_Desktop...?...but can not connect from Home_Desktop to Lower_office as network.jpg indicates ?

The laptop (RoadWarrior) will not connect or be found either..but want to concentrate on above desktop issue first.

NOTE: I have not done anything with Windows 7 "HomeGroup" at this point. Appears to me to be only for Windows 7 machines ?

Here's ipcongif /all on problem machines:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Tim>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : LOWER_OFFICE
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 Mbps Ether
net
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-58-69-CA-D9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:51:36 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:47:45 AM
C:\Documents and Settings\Tim>

********************************************************************************************

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Tim>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Home_Desktop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 90-E6-BA-54-94-87
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::b55c:4e1e:d47e:ecf5%11(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.4(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:59:49 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:59:48 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 244377274
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-12-EC-16-29-90-E6-BA-54-94-87
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
Tunnel adapter isatap.{78E58B9A-43A9-47D9-A48D-A5FB5F486411}:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e76:2ca6:2f70:3f57:fffb(Pref
erred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::2ca6:2f70:3f57:fffb%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
C:\Users\Tim>

Thanks..



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10 Mar 2010   #2

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by trinaz View Post
Trying to setup home network with same machines but with 2 of the desktops recently upgraded to Windows 7 Pro. Here's the breakdown:

2 Desktops running new Windows 7 Pro systems - (hardwired)
1 Desktop running XP Pro SP3 - (hardwired)
2 laptops running XP Home Ed SP3 (Wireless)

Attached is a shot of what the main desktop (Home_Desktop Windows 7 Pro) finds in Networks (allnetworks.jpg):

Home_Desktop finds all but one laptop (RoadWorrior) but... will not connect to Lower_Office...I get the attached error window (network.jpg)

No issues connecting to MaryAnn-PC (Win 7 Pro SP3) and/or Maryannslaptop (XP HE SP3)

However...from Lower_Office XP Pro desktop...I can connect and move files back and forth from Home_Desktop...?...but can not connect from Home_Desktop to Lower_office as network.jpg indicates ?

The laptop (RoadWarrior) will not connect or be found either..but want to concentrate on above desktop issue first.

Here's ipcongif /all on problem machines:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Tim>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : LOWER_OFFICE
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 Mbps Ether
net
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-58-69-CA-D9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:51:36 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:47:45 AM
C:\Documents and Settings\Tim>

********************************************************************************************

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Tim>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Home_Desktop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 90-E6-BA-54-94-87
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::b55c:4e1e:d47e:ecf5%11(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.4(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:59:49 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:59:48 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 244377274
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-12-EC-16-29-90-E6-BA-54-94-87
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
Tunnel adapter isatap.{78E58B9A-43A9-47D9-A48D-A5FB5F486411}:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e76:2ca6:2f70:3f57:fffb(Pref
erred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::2ca6:2f70:3f57:fffb%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
C:\Users\Tim>

Thanks..
Since you have IPv6 addys you are running :homegroup". Homegroup is for WIN 7 machine only. You should be running workgroup on mixed netwroks. Workgroup uses IPv4 and is less prone to connectivity issue on some systems than Homegroup. You can verify this easily by setting up a new connection using the workgroup model.

Let us know if you need help

Ken
My System SpecsSystem Spec
10 Mar 2010   #3

 
 

trinaz;

There was a thread on a similar topic awhile back. Please take a look to see if any of it would help you in your current situation?

3 PC Network Sharing

Cheers!
Robert
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.


10 Mar 2010   #4

Windows 7 Pro 64bit SP1
 
 

Thanks guys...couple more questions before I go to far with this....

1) Everything now is wep....do I have to remove all wep info (keys) etc from all computers/printers, etc before I switch the router over to WPA ?
2) When editing the registry to disable IPv6 which number option should I use ?

From link How to disable certain Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) components in Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008

5. Type any one of the following values to configure the IPv6 protocol, and then click OK:
1. Type 0 to enable all IPv6 components.

Note The value "0" is the default setting.
2. Type 0xffffffff to disable all IPv6 components, except the IPv6 loopback interface. This value also configures Windows Vista to use Internet Protocol version 4 (IPv4) instead of IPv6 in prefix policies.
3. Type 0x20 to use IPv4 instead of IPv6 in prefix policies.
4. Type 0x10 to disable native IPv6 interfaces.
5. Type 0x01 to disable all tunnel IPv6 interfaces.
6. Type 0x11 to disable all IPv6 interfaces except for the IPv6 loopback interface.

Note You must restart your computer for these changes to take affect.


3) After modifying registry...my network icon in system tray now has a yellow exclamation over it ? Is this correct ?

There doesn't seem to be anything to disable/remove with Windows 7 Homegroup ? As I said...I hadn't done anything with Homegroup since installation as the attached jpg shows....?...I don't understand why the one XP laptop networks fine with Win 7 machines...but the other two don't ?

TR


Attached Thumbnails
Having trouble with W7 & XP home network setup-nohomegroup.jpg  
My System SpecsSystem Spec
10 Mar 2010   #5

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by trinaz View Post
Thanks guys...couple more questions before I go to far with this....

1) Everything now is wep....do I have to remove all wep info (keys) etc from all computers/printers, etc before I switch the router over to WPA ?
You are most welcome, hope we helped.

I just had to reinstall XP on my old Dell D505 Laptop and setup WPA-personal (WPA2-psk). I assume when your router is set to WPA, and you change your wireless computers to WPA, you will be asked for a "Key". I was able to type in my key (same as the router) and connected right up.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by trinaz View Post
2) When editing the registry to disable IPv6 which number option should I use ?

From link How to disable certain Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) components in Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008

5. Type any one of the following values to configure the IPv6 protocol, and then click OK:
1. Type 0 to enable all IPv6 components.

Note The value "0" is the default setting.
2. Type 0xffffffff to disable all IPv6 components, except the IPv6 loopback interface. This value also configures Windows Vista to use Internet Protocol version 4 (IPv4) instead of IPv6 in prefix policies.
3. Type 0x20 to use IPv4 instead of IPv6 in prefix policies.
4. Type 0x10 to disable native IPv6 interfaces.
5. Type 0x01 to disable all tunnel IPv6 interfaces.
6. Type 0x11 to disable all IPv6 interfaces except for the IPv6 loopback interface.

Note You must restart your computer for these changes to take affect.
I would say use: "Type 0xffffffff to disable all IPv6 components".

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by trinaz View Post
3) After modifying registry...my network icon in system tray now has a yellow exclamation over it ? Is this correct ?
No, this should be investigated. A reboot may correct things. You may need to create a new "Home Network" to replace whatever you have now. There is also a way to reset the network settings I will have to find again, if needed.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by trinaz View Post
As I said...I hadn't done anything with Homegroup since installation as the attached jpg shows....?...I don't understand why the one XP laptop networks fine with Win 7 machines...but the other two don't ?

TR
Got me ... I am sure time will tell the reason?

Cheers!
Robert
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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