Homegroup issue

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  1. Posts : 29
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #11

    Alright, I tried what you suggested Chev65 but I could not locate "DisabledComponents" under parameters there was a "Default" option and "Dhcpv6duid". I tried the other method you listed but once I got to the LocalService folder I could go no further, there was no appdata. I checked all the options that you listed on the bottom of your post as well to make sure that network discovery was on and so on. everything was set the way it is supposed to be. Is there some kind of issue where wired and wireless connections have an issue seeing and accessing each other? because I keep finding more things going wrong here. Now from my main PC which is wired to the router cannot see my HTPC which is wireless but it can see my daughters pc which is also wireless. I cannot see my media storage PC though and it is wired to the router. The wierd thing is that I can see them under the Network menu but not the Homegroups menu. I am thinking that it would be best to just redo this entire network and homegroup from scratch to make sure that everything gets set up the right way. Any thoughts?
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  2. Posts : 11,990
    Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
       #12

    Redoing it is certainly an option. Since all computers are running Seven, homegroups should be easy and work well.
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  3. Posts : 29
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #13

    CarlTR6 said:
    Redoing it is certainly an option. Since all computers are running Seven, homegroups should be easy and work well.
    Alright, after a few days I have gotten back to this issue. I removed all computers from the homegroup and started a new one. This time around I have gotten all the computers to see each other on the homegroup however I still have that one computer that refuses to look into folders from other computers, it can see every other computer in the homegroup and I can click on them to see which folders are shared but when I try to look in the folders(any folders at all that are not native to this computer) the computer attempts to load the contents and then just stops loading and nothing happens. I have tried looking in folders on all 4 other computers from this computer and the same thing happens. I do not know what to do about this. at first I thought I would not be able to look into that computers shared folders from the others as well but on further exploration I found that every other computer on the homegroup can look at all shared folders even folders from the computer that cannot look into anything at all. There has to be a way to fix this because it just does not make sense for only one computer out of five all running windows 7 to have this issue.
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  4. Posts : 11,990
    Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
       #14

    I hope Chevy will see this and jump in. He is good with Win 7 homegroups. I'm trying to think of things that could be unique to that computer.

    1. Check the firewall, anti-malware and anti-virus settings in case something is being blocked. If you disable these, do you still have the problem?

    2. Check the services related to networking running on the computer that is not seeing the files with one that is able to see the files.

    The is just a grasp for ideas of what could be different with that one machine.
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  5. Posts : 29
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #15

    CarlTR6 said:
    I hope Chevy will see this and jump in. He is good with Win 7 homegroups. I'm trying to think of things that could be unique to that computer.

    1. Check the firewall, anti-malware and anti-virus settings in case something is being blocked. If you disable these, do you still have the problem?

    2. Check the services related to networking running on the computer that is not seeing the files with one that is able to see the files.

    The is just a grasp for ideas of what could be different with that one machine.
    Thank you for the response, I will check the settings for the anti-virus and firewall and see if that is the issue I will also try disabling them for a minute to see if I can get through that way.
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  6. Posts : 8,870
    Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
       #16

    If there is an AV involved then all bets are off on this working correctly. It's best to completely uninstall the AV's or just don't install them until after you have the network set up and working correctly.

    Disabling certain AV's or third party firewalls doesn't always seem to fix the problem and they sometimes need to be completely uninstalled,then reinstalled after you have the network up and running.

    Most of the AV's will see the new network and create rules for the network once it's up and running but installing them before you set up the network usually just creates problems.
    Last edited by chev65; 29 Mar 2010 at 14:37.
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  7. Posts : 8,870
    Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
       #17

    Product FRED said:
    chev65 said:
    Well it certainly gives you more options than just getting rid of Homegroups now doesn't it? Hopefully you will get back to this and get Homegroups working. There are zero reasons not to use Homegroups if you are running Windows 7 machines.
    Compatibility is one of the reasons not to. Switching to workgroup is the most immediate fix, usually.
    I have set up Homegroups on 6 completely different machines, also helped countless others get it up and running, never had a single problem with any of my machines working with Homegroups no matter how old or outdated they were.

    Some of my machines are more than ten years old and Homegroups works flawlessly with everyone of them so I find it hard to believe that it could be a compatiblity problem.

    There are of course other things that can go wrong with Homegroups but that usually involves an AV or third party firewall or the router isn't capible of supporting IPv6. Sometimes the router is simply outdated and doesn't support Win 7 in which case a firmware update or a new router is required. No doubt there are a couple other problem like the registry fixes that need to be addressed but that doesn't seem to relate to a compatlity problem.

    AV's and third party firewalls also cause countless problems with Homegroups. Avast and AVG are famous for ruining Homegroup functionality. Not to mention Apples infamous Bonjour service.

    I guess that could be considered a compatiblity problem but it's not directly related to Homegroups itself.
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  8. Posts : 11,990
    Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
       #18

    chev65 said:
    If there is an AV involved then all bets are off on this working correctly. It's best to completely uninstall the AV's or just don't install them until after you have the network set up and working correctly.

    Disabling certain AV's or third party firewalls doesn't always seem to fix the problem and they sometimes need to be completely uninstalled,then reinstalled after you have the network up and running.

    Most of the AV's will see the new network and create rules for the network once it's up and running but installing them before you set up the network usually just creates problems.
    Thanks, Chev; I was sure hoping you would step in. That AV thing may be one of the reasons I had extra trouble getting my XP machine into the homegroup. I disabled them; but did not uninstall them. Now I know.
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  9. Posts : 29
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #19

    Chev! thank you for coming by my thread again. As suggested by Carl I tried disabling the AV but it still didn't work. I am using Avast on all my machines here at home so again it would be strange that it would only bother one of them and not the others. I will try uninstalling it from that machine and rejoining the homegroup to see if that helps. I am not using a firewall currently because I was trying to get the network all set before installing them. I hope that the uninstall works because this is just a pain in the arse. Will post back in a little while with results of test .

    Thanks for all your help guys, you are making this experience less stressful by helping me work it out.

    *edit*
    So I tried uninstalling the AV, was a whole process of booting in safe mode to get rid of Avast. Kind of a pain in the butt, however it was removed and computer was restarted after leaving the homegroup. Rebooted in normal mode to rejoin Homegroup with the same results as before......what the heck is going on here!!
    Last edited by Dragonschild; 29 Mar 2010 at 18:37. Reason: posting results from troubleshooting
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  10. Posts : 11,990
    Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
       #20

    Have you compared the list of services running in a machine that can see the files with the list of the one that can't see the files? I am sure you have checked and compared the network settings.
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