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Windows 7: Multimedia sharing

23 Apr 2010   #11
acurasd

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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I honestly turn off the Windows Media Sharing... I think that it is a waste.

What I do is install alot of codecs in my computers becuase you never know what you download from the internet and what codec it will be in so it will be a good idea that all computers have the k-lite mega codec.
Alternatively you could install Media Player Classic Home Cinema version at about 5mb and ditch the entire 40mb codec collection because MPC-HC has everything built right in. So far it's played every file I've thrown at it with no problems at all.

Media Player Classic - Home Cinema - Video Player

Really... try it, you'll like it... and you can uninstall the entire KLite pack.

I actually have the Media Player Classic installed. I am very impressed on how much you can modify it. I dont know what it is. I am having some errors everytime I try to intitally use the classic player which I am still working out the bugs.


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23 Apr 2010   #12
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by acurasd View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CommonTater View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by acurasd View Post
I honestly turn off the Windows Media Sharing... I think that it is a waste.

What I do is install alot of codecs in my computers becuase you never know what you download from the internet and what codec it will be in so it will be a good idea that all computers have the k-lite mega codec.
Alternatively you could install Media Player Classic Home Cinema version at about 5mb and ditch the entire 40mb codec collection because MPC-HC has everything built right in. So far it's played every file I've thrown at it with no problems at all.

Media Player Classic - Home Cinema - Video Player

Really... try it, you'll like it... and you can uninstall the entire KLite pack.

I actually have the Media Player Classic installed. I am very impressed on how much you can modify it. I dont know what it is. I am having some errors everytime I try to intitally use the classic player which I am still working out the bugs.
Ok... I know this is confusing... But these are two totally different softwares...

Media Player Classic --the one that comes with the K-Lite codecs-- is a very old version and it's been hacked up to use all these alternative codecs. (Read: "It's as unstable as all git!")

Media Player Classic Home Cinema Version-- the one I linked to-- is a total rewrite. All codecs are internal, K-Lite is not needed and should be uninstalled. I have *never* had a problem with this version.
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23 Apr 2010   #13
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

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@CommonTater:
- Yes, it resumes after a 5-15s pause.
- Traffic shouldn't be a problem. it happens any time of a day even when one client computer is downloading a movie.
- I am using using BS or VLC player for videos and winamp for music
- The pause is too short that I can test it trough other computers
This usually indicates either a network saturation or communications errors.

Despite it's toutilage VLC is probably not the best player for streaming video.
Winamp just plain sucks at everything.

Frankly you'd be better off tolerating Windows Media Player.

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@CommonTater:
- is it possible that it's players fault?
Entirely possible. But there still could be several other causes...


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All computers are running windows 7.

How does that type of sharing works?
My guess it would be that it loads into the buffer and after some percentage is downloaded, it is allowed for player to play.
I gather you are using "Home Networking" but not using the Media Center or WMP to view your files... In that case, you can disable the multimedia features of "Home Networking"... It's stupid really... WMP goes out on the network and builds a catalog of all media files on your network and makes that available to Media Center... if you aren't using MC, it's a total waste of energy.

Judging from the glimpse of your operating scenario as you've described it, I think you might be a lot happier using "Work Network" with the XP style folder sharing and user/pass authentications. There's a lot less background traffic on the net and it lets you disable IPV6, which many older routers simply don't like.

In my experience "Home Network" is for people who really don't know how to set up a network...
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23 Apr 2010   #14
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Accurasd, are you aware that it is possible to edit your posts and add to them rather than triple posting?

The Op just needs to use a Workgroup because of the Msoft server in his network. Streaming will work fine after that. Although if it were me I'd dump the server and go with Homegroups, it works so well for me there is no reason to "fix" it.
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23 Apr 2010   #15
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
Accurasd, are you aware that it is possible to edit your posts and add to them rather than triple posting?

The Op just needs to use a Workgroup because of the Msoft server in his network. Streaming will work fine after that. Although if it were me I'd dump the server and go with Homegroups, it works so well for me there is no reason to "fix" it.
Hi Chevy...

The OP never said he is running any Windows Server version ... merely that he's designated one of his computers as a "server". He has said that all computers are on Windows 7 and I took him at his word.

It's pretty common in HTPC circles to load up a box with a couple of extra drives and treat it as a server even though it's working from a workstation OS. Quite often the "server" and HTPC are the same machine.
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23 Apr 2010   #16
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CommonTater View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
Accurasd, are you aware that it is possible to edit your posts and add to them rather than triple posting?

The Op just needs to use a Workgroup because of the Msoft server in his network. Streaming will work fine after that. Although if it were me I'd dump the server and go with Homegroups, it works so well for me there is no reason to "fix" it.
Hi Chevy...

The OP never said he is running any Windows Server version ... merely that he's designated one of his computers as a "server". He has said that all computers are on Windows 7 and I took him at his word.

It's pretty common in HTPC circles to load up a box with a couple of extra drives and treat it as a server even though it's working from a workstation OS. Quite often the "server" and HTPC are the same machine.
If that's the case then streaming with Homegroups and WMP should be working perfectly. No changes to the network would be required if that were the case.

I also use my HTPC as a server but it's using Windows 7 so it's not a real server and I don't think I would call it a server if I was asking network questions. That would only confuse people I think.

I have been testing Homegroups for over 10 months now and can't seem to find a flaw with it. I can stream five movies at once every which way I can think of with zero problems. Some of my machines are ten years old also but no problems with them either. So I'm a bit confused on how the Op could be having problems with streaming and Homegroups unless there was a third party A/V or firewall in the mix.

I can even turn IPv6 off and the streaming with Homegroups still works fine. I can't figure that one out but it works none the less. It seems that IPv6 is mostly used for the initial Homegroup network connection but after that doesn't seem to be used for much.

The indexing does take some time to complete but it finishes eventually and all is well after that. Maybe that was the Ops problem hard to say.
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23 Apr 2010   #17
acurasd

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Yeah,
I knew you could edit. I did on one. It was 2-4am in the morning and I was just hanging on. Just forgot.

There is alot of information here. Did the thread starter ever get his network up?
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23 Apr 2010   #18
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
If that's the case then streaming with Homegroups and WMP should be working perfectly. No changes to the network would be required if that were the case.
Did you see the part where he's not using that software?

He's using VLC and WinAmp ... all that cataloguing and searching is for naught.

Better question... Did you even read his initial post?
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27 Apr 2010   #19
brama

seven, xp, ubuntu
 
 

so you are suggesting to get rid of homegroup gadget and use ordinary networking where I can disable IPv6?
Will test it tomorrow morning!

If it fails again, I'll try with static IP.

Thank you all for your time! I appreciate it!

Please don't argue. Ain't worth. It's just silly networking annoyance.
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