| Windows 7: Which switch to add or just upgrade router??? |
26 Jun 2010
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#1 | | 7600x64 ultimate, not SP1 mile high |
Which switch to add or just upgrade router??? Home network upgrade time...
I have...
2 phones (wifi)
home server (gig lan) - this one is in the works, waiting on a new PSU
home office PC (dual gigabit lan)
backup PC/WMC PC (gigabit lan)
Ipad (wifi)
Laptop (usually wifi but sometimes wired connection)
Right now I have the Comcast 22/5 service here at home with their Netgear wireless N router. I'm out of connections on the back of the router.
Should I add a gig switch and take the speed hit to the 100mb router or upgrade to a router with gigabit connections?
Best place to get cat 6 cables? | My System Specs |
| OS 7600x64 ultimate, not SP1 CPU i7 930 Motherboard Gigabye X58A-ud5 Memory 12gb ddr3 1600 triple channel Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card Radeon 5850 1gb OC edition Sound Card Asus Xonar Essence STX Monitor(s) Displays Acer 24'', Dell 23'' display port Screen Resolution 1920x1200, 1920x1080 Keyboard logitech 2.4ghz wireless wave something Mouse logitech laser wireless mouse. PSU 700 modular Case Antec 1200 Cooling Promlimatech Megahalems Hard Drives 3x64GB Microcenter SSDs RAID0
1tb spinpoint f3 (system)
1tb spinpoint f3 (media)
1tb spinpoint f3 OSX
1x2TB WD green images
1tb 7200.12 (time machine)
2x 500gb western digital green drives for archiving,keeping install files. Internet Speed 50/10 Other Info 4 systems currently:
1. sig rig
2. 930 i7 x64 ultimate (backup, media center PC)
3. c314 2gb ram tablet 7600 ultimate
4. athlon 6000+ home server (still in progress)
5. ipad for on the go |
26 Jun 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Liberty University |

Quote: Originally Posted by jorpe Home network upgrade time...
I have...
2 phones (wifi)
home server (gig lan) - this one is in the works, waiting on a new PSU
home office PC (dual gigabit lan)
backup PC/WMC PC (gigabit lan)
Ipad (wifi)
Laptop (usually wifi but sometimes wired connection)
Right now I have the Comcast 22/5 service here at home with their Netgear wireless N router. I'm out of connections on the back of the router.
Should I add a gig switch and take the speed hit to the 100mb router or upgrade to a router with gigabit connections?
Best place to get cat 6 cables? I don't have experience adding switches, but you should be aware that if you get a new router, you'll have to get one that can clone the MAC address of your current router, otherwise it will be a real pain to get Comcast working again. At least that was my experience with them.
And I always recommend TigerDirect for things like cables. They have really good prices, fast shipping, and a good selection. TigerDirect CAT 6 Cables
Hope this helps you! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware X51 OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 @3.40GHz Memory 8.00GB DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 555 w/1.0GB RAM Monitor(s) Displays BenQ XL2420TX Screen Resolution 1920x1080@120Hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless Illuminated Keyboard K800 Mouse Razer Orochi PSU 330-watt Hard Drives 1TB Internet Speed Campus Internet |
26 Jun 2010
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#3 | | Vista 64 Ultimate, Windows 7 64 Ultimate, Ubuntu 9.10 S. ME and W. ME |
Your current router may have the ability to act as a switch when coupled with another router so you may want to check at the manufacturers website, if this is the case it may give you some other options to think about. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DELL XPS Studio 435T OS Vista 64 Ultimate, Windows 7 64 Ultimate, Ubuntu 9.10 CPU i7 975 3.3 GHz Extreme (Factory OC'd to 3.6 GHz) Motherboard DELL provided Memory 18 Gb Tri-Channel 1066 Graphics Card ATI 5970 2048 Mb Sound Card X-Fi Extreme Gamer Monitor(s) Displays Vizio 37" HD-TV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Performance K350 Wireless Mouse Logitech Performance MX Wireless PSU DELL Provided 475 watts Case DELL Cooling 3 fans Hard Drives 1.5 Tb HDD
1.5 Tb HDD
2.0 Tb Network Drive
512 Gb Crucial SSD Internet Speed 3 Mb up 750 Kb down Other Info Bamboo Fun Tablet, Belkin N+ Wireless router, Pioneer Dolby System Wireless Headphones, Bose 5.1 Dolby Surround Sound System, LifeCam VX 3000 Webcam, Blu-Ray/Hi Def DVD +RW combo and Blu-ray +RW,l 15 in 1 media card reader, Logitech Rumblepad 2, Hauppauge 2250 DTV Tuner with MS Media Center Remote
Laptop:Alienware M17x, Q9100 CPU, 8Gb RAM, 1920x1200 WUXGA LCD driven by 4870's in CrossFireX, Bl |
27 Jun 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Profession 64-bit Nebraska, USA |
Just to clarify terminology - All a router does is connect (or isolate) two networks. BUT most home-type routers INCLUDE a 4-port Ethernet switch in the same box. It is important to understand the router and the 4-port switch are two, discrete, and independent network "appliances" that just happen to be integrated in the same box - just as a sound card or NIC might be integrated with a motherboard.
To that end, there is no such thing as a "wireless router" either. That is a marketing term to indicate the box ALSO includes a WAP - wireless access point - in the same box.
So with that, you should be able to disable the router feature and use the 4-port switch side but as you note - that will not be at 1Gb speeds. Therefore, if you want full speeds across your network, you will need to add a 1Gb switch. This is a simple process of simply connecting the "upstream" port of the switch to one of the Ethernet ports of the router's integrated switch, then connecting your other network devices to the new 1Gb switch. However, unless you stream video across your network, it is not likely you will see any speed improvement by going to 1Gb. And a 1Gb network does not affect in any way your Internet speeds. Quote: Best place to get cat 6 cables? Make your own. " Invest" in a quality crimping tool. Use good connectors and a tester (optional - but really convenient). In this way, you build your cables the length you need. And if running cables through walls, ceilings, or floors, you don't have to drill huge holes for the connectors. You will certainly ruin several connectors at first until you learn the proper strategic placement of tongue (that's where the tester comes in handy). But once you become proficient, you won't regret it. Your network (and behind your desk) will also look much more tidy, clean, and professional. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number BrightWorks Systems B4 OS Windows 7 Profession 64-bit CPU Intel Core i7-860 Quad Motherboard Gigabyte P55-UD4P Memory Mushkin 4x2Gb PC12800 Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX260 896Mb Sound Card Integrated 7.1 HD Dolby Monitor(s) Displays 2 Samsung 2220wm-HAS 22" Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 | 1680 x 1050 Keyboard MS Wireless Comfort 5000 Mouse MS Wireless 5000 PSU Corsair TX-750W Case Ultra M998 Cooling OEM Hard Drives WD HE 1Tb Internet Speed Cable and pretty darn fast |
27 Jun 2010
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#5 | | 7600x64 ultimate, not SP1 mile high |

Quote: Originally Posted by Digerati Just to clarify terminology - All a router does is connect (or isolate) two networks. BUT most home-type routers INCLUDE a 4-port Ethernet switch in the same box. It is important to understand the router and the 4-port switch are two, discrete, and independent network "appliances" that just happen to be integrated in the same box - just as a sound card or NIC might be integrated with a motherboard.
To that end, there is no such thing as a "wireless router" either. That is a marketing term to indicate the box ALSO includes a WAP - wireless access point - in the same box.
So with that, you should be able to disable the router feature and use the 4-port switch side but as you note - that will not be at 1Gb speeds. Therefore, if you want full speeds across your network, you will need to add a 1Gb switch. This is a simple process of simply connecting the "upstream" port of the switch to one of the Ethernet ports of the router's integrated switch, then connecting your other network devices to the new 1Gb switch. However, unless you stream video across your network, it is not likely you will see any speed improvement by going to 1Gb. And a 1Gb network does not affect in any way your Internet speeds. Quote: Best place to get cat 6 cables? Make your own. " Invest" in a quality crimping tool. Use good connectors and a tester (optional - but really convenient). In this way, you build your cables the length you need. And if running cables through walls, ceilings, or floors, you don't have to drill huge holes for the connectors. You will certainly ruin several connectors at first until you learn the proper strategic placement of tongue (that's where the tester comes in handy). But once you become proficient, you won't regret it. Your network (and behind your desk) will also look much more tidy, clean, and professional.
Thank you, and my apologies for the incorrect terminology. TCP/IP in 14 days was one of the most tedious books for me to ever read. I was looking for recommendations on which home networking products to use. I've since just emailed a handful of people on craigslist with swtiches to add to my current setup. I need 6 ports with gigabit speed, and the ability to connect 7 devices wirelessly. My routers WAP now easily handles what I throw at it with wireless devices.
The reason I was considering just adding a(an additional) switch to the router I use already was that my internet connection is 22/5 from comcast, which would never be able to saturate a 100mbps connection. I do have a business computer, backup, home server, and both me and the gf's laptops constantly connected transferring pics, music and videos. | My System Specs | | OS 7600x64 ultimate, not SP1 CPU i7 930 Motherboard Gigabye X58A-ud5 Memory 12gb ddr3 1600 triple channel Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card Radeon 5850 1gb OC edition Sound Card Asus Xonar Essence STX Monitor(s) Displays Acer 24'', Dell 23'' display port Screen Resolution 1920x1200, 1920x1080 Keyboard logitech 2.4ghz wireless wave something Mouse logitech laser wireless mouse. PSU 700 modular Case Antec 1200 Cooling Promlimatech Megahalems Hard Drives 3x64GB Microcenter SSDs RAID0
1tb spinpoint f3 (system)
1tb spinpoint f3 (media)
1tb spinpoint f3 OSX
1x2TB WD green images
1tb 7200.12 (time machine)
2x 500gb western digital green drives for archiving,keeping install files. Internet Speed 50/10 Other Info 4 systems currently:
1. sig rig
2. 930 i7 x64 ultimate (backup, media center PC)
3. c314 2gb ram tablet 7600 ultimate
4. athlon 6000+ home server (still in progress)
5. ipad for on the go |
27 Jun 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Profession 64-bit Nebraska, USA |
Well there are several 8-port Gigabit Ethernet Switches to choose from and note the closing paragraph, Quote: But what won't make a difference is the switch you choose. You can buy any of these products and feel confident that they aren't a throughput bottleneck. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number BrightWorks Systems B4 OS Windows 7 Profession 64-bit CPU Intel Core i7-860 Quad Motherboard Gigabyte P55-UD4P Memory Mushkin 4x2Gb PC12800 Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX260 896Mb Sound Card Integrated 7.1 HD Dolby Monitor(s) Displays 2 Samsung 2220wm-HAS 22" Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 | 1680 x 1050 Keyboard MS Wireless Comfort 5000 Mouse MS Wireless 5000 PSU Corsair TX-750W Case Ultra M998 Cooling OEM Hard Drives WD HE 1Tb Internet Speed Cable and pretty darn fast |
13 Mar 2012
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#7 | | 7600x64 ultimate, not SP1 mile high |

Quote: Originally Posted by Digerati Just to clarify terminology - All a router does is connect (or isolate) two networks. BUT most home-type routers INCLUDE a 4-port Ethernet switch in the same box. It is important to understand the router and the 4-port switch are two, discrete, and independent network "appliances" that just happen to be integrated in the same box - just as a sound card or NIC might be integrated with a motherboard.
To that end, there is no such thing as a "wireless router" either. That is a marketing term to indicate the box ALSO includes a WAP - wireless access point - in the same box.
So with that, you should be able to disable the router feature and use the 4-port switch side but as you note - that will not be at 1Gb speeds. Therefore, if you want full speeds across your network, you will need to add a 1Gb switch. This is a simple process of simply connecting the "upstream" port of the switch to one of the Ethernet ports of the router's integrated switch, then connecting your other network devices to the new 1Gb switch. However, unless you stream video across your network, it is not likely you will see any speed improvement by going to 1Gb. And a 1Gb network does not affect in any way your Internet speeds. Quote: Best place to get cat 6 cables? Make your own. " Invest" in a quality crimping tool. Use good connectors and a tester (optional - but really convenient). In this way, you build your cables the length you need. And if running cables through walls, ceilings, or floors, you don't have to drill huge holes for the connectors. You will certainly ruin several connectors at first until you learn the proper strategic placement of tongue (that's where the tester comes in handy). But once you become proficient, you won't regret it. Your network (and behind your desk) will also look much more tidy, clean, and professional. I know its taboo to bump old threads, but this advice to buy my own cable, connectors and crimper then cut the cables to length was the best advice I've had when using computers or building networks.
FWIW I built 8 cables of varying lengths and didn't mess one single connector up. | My System Specs | | OS 7600x64 ultimate, not SP1 CPU i7 930 Motherboard Gigabye X58A-ud5 Memory 12gb ddr3 1600 triple channel Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card Radeon 5850 1gb OC edition Sound Card Asus Xonar Essence STX Monitor(s) Displays Acer 24'', Dell 23'' display port Screen Resolution 1920x1200, 1920x1080 Keyboard logitech 2.4ghz wireless wave something Mouse logitech laser wireless mouse. PSU 700 modular Case Antec 1200 Cooling Promlimatech Megahalems Hard Drives 3x64GB Microcenter SSDs RAID0
1tb spinpoint f3 (system)
1tb spinpoint f3 (media)
1tb spinpoint f3 OSX
1x2TB WD green images
1tb 7200.12 (time machine)
2x 500gb western digital green drives for archiving,keeping install files. Internet Speed 50/10 Other Info 4 systems currently:
1. sig rig
2. 930 i7 x64 ultimate (backup, media center PC)
3. c314 2gb ram tablet 7600 ultimate
4. athlon 6000+ home server (still in progress)
5. ipad for on the go Which switch to add or just upgrade router??? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:21 PM. | |