| Windows 7: CAT 6 Network x64 |
08 Jul 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit |
CAT 6 Network x64 I am trying to connect 2 notebooks with a CAT 6 cable.
One is Ultimate x64, the other one is Home Premium x64.
After I connect with the cable, it identifies it as a unidentified network and sees it as a public network and does not give me the option to change it to a home or work network.
When I open network, it says that "network discovery is not on, would you like to make it on" and after that screen it gives 2 options : turning the network discovery on or making the network I am connected to a private network.
When I choose the second option to make the network I am connected as private, it makes both this network and the wireless network as work network.
When it does this, I am having to change the wireless network to public manually.
Is there any easier way to connect 2 notebooks (with Windows 7 x64) with a CAT 6 cable without going through this? I mean these 2 notebooks are always the same and I was just wondering if there is something that I do not know easier.
Thanks.
P.S.: I want network discovery off for public networks (as it is now). | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G72 Notebook OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit CPU Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 2.53 GHz Memory 6GB DDRII Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M Sound Card EAX Advanced HD 4.0 + Logitech Wireless Headset G930 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 Cooling Targus Hard Drives 2 x Seagate Momentus 500 GB 5400.6 SATA 3Gb/s Internet Speed 3 to 6 Mbps Download / .5 to 1 Mbps Upload Other Info Clear Modem with Wi-fi*
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08 Jul 2010
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#2 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |

Quote: Originally Posted by IMAyNeed I am trying to connect 2 notebooks with a CAT 6 cable.
One is Ultimate x64, the other one is Home Premium x64.
After I connect with the cable, it identifies it as a unidentified network and sees it as a public network and does not give me the option to change it to a home or work network.
When I open network, it says that "network discovery is not on, would you like to make it on" and after that screen it gives 2 options : turning the network discovery on or making the network I am connected to a private network.
When I choose the second option to make the network I am connected as private, it makes both this network and the wireless network as work network.
When it does this, I am having to change the wireless network to public manually.
Is there any easier way to connect 2 notebooks (with Windows 7 x64) with a CAT 6 cable without going through this? I mean these 2 notebooks are always the same and I was just wondering if there is something that I do not know easier.
Thanks.
P.S.: I want network discovery off for public networks (as it is now).
First there is absolutly no difference between CAT6 and CAT5 cable either will work.
Are you using homegroup?
Try to set up a new network connection using workgroup. See if it works
Ken | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
09 Jul 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit |
No, I am not using homegroup, actually I would like to.
How can I setup a new network connection using workgroup? I didn't understand that. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G72 Notebook OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit CPU Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 2.53 GHz Memory 6GB DDRII Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M Sound Card EAX Advanced HD 4.0 + Logitech Wireless Headset G930 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 Cooling Targus Hard Drives 2 x Seagate Momentus 500 GB 5400.6 SATA 3Gb/s Internet Speed 3 to 6 Mbps Download / .5 to 1 Mbps Upload Other Info Clear Modem with Wi-fi*
Comodo Internet Security Premium |
09 Jul 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7; Server 08; Window Home Server; Vista; XP Ventura |

Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 First there is absolutly no difference between CAT6 and CAT5 cable either will work.
Are you using homegroup?
Try to set up a new network connection using workgroup. See if it works
Ken First... Absolutely untrue statement. Cat5/5e is rated to operate at 100Mhz. Cat6 is rated for 200Mhz. Modern switches detect this and will operate the port accordingly.
Secondly. He should be using a cross over cable or a switch. You can also do it as adhok network wirelessly. You should not use a regular Cat cable.
Connect the 2 machines via switch or cross over cable. - Open Network and Sharing Center by clicking the Start button, clicking Control Panel, clicking Network and Internet, and then clicking Network and Sharing Center.
- In the network map at the top of Network and Sharing Center, double-click the Unidentified network* icon. (If you have more than one network, this icon will be labeled Multiple networks.)
- If network discovery and file sharing are turned off, in Network, click the Information bar containing the following message: "Network discovery and file sharing are turned off. Network computers and devices are not visible. Click to change...," and then click Turn on network discovery and file sharing. If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
In the Network discovery and file sharing dialog box, select one of the following options:
make the network that I am connected to a private network.
Yes, turn on network discovery and file sharing for all public networks The first option is usually the best choice because it only affects the network that you are connected to. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7; Server 08; Window Home Server; Vista; XP CPU Intel E8400 @ 3.4Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte P35 DS3L Memory 8 Gb Patriot DDr2 800 Graphics Card NVidia GTX460 OC Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 21" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard HP Standard USB Mouse Logitech 518 PSU Cooler Master 650w 52a on 12v Case Antec 300 Cooling Stock Hard Drives Seagate 160Gb x2
Samsung 250Gb Internet Speed 25Mbit Down 1.5Mbit up Other Info http://www.speedtest.net/result/723924362.png |
10 Jul 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit |
My cable says CAT 6 Cross Over-7' on it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G72 Notebook OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit CPU Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 2.53 GHz Memory 6GB DDRII Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M Sound Card EAX Advanced HD 4.0 + Logitech Wireless Headset G930 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 Cooling Targus Hard Drives 2 x Seagate Momentus 500 GB 5400.6 SATA 3Gb/s Internet Speed 3 to 6 Mbps Download / .5 to 1 Mbps Upload Other Info Clear Modem with Wi-fi*
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10 Jul 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7; Server 08; Window Home Server; Vista; XP Ventura |
If you are using a crossover then following the posted instructions should do it. You will need matching user accounts on both machines. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7; Server 08; Window Home Server; Vista; XP CPU Intel E8400 @ 3.4Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte P35 DS3L Memory 8 Gb Patriot DDr2 800 Graphics Card NVidia GTX460 OC Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 21" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard HP Standard USB Mouse Logitech 518 PSU Cooler Master 650w 52a on 12v Case Antec 300 Cooling Stock Hard Drives Seagate 160Gb x2
Samsung 250Gb Internet Speed 25Mbit Down 1.5Mbit up Other Info http://www.speedtest.net/result/723924362.png |
10 Jul 2010
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#7 | | |
CAT-5 and CAT-6 cables doesn't really differ other than CAT-6 can run 1Gbps at longer cable length than CAT-5e (CAT-5e can run GigE speed too, but shorter cable length than CAT-6). As for networking 2 PCs running Windows 7, there's nothing easier than just enable Homegroup (and pray that it will work at the first time). There's a lot of tutorials covering this topic in the Tutorials section...
zzz2496 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Motherboard Abit IN9-32X-MMAX Memory DDR2 Adata 4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 1024 and Nvidia GeForce 8800GT 512 Sound Card Asus Xonar HDAV 1.3 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2407WFP and BenQ 2400v and Philips 150v3 Screen Resolution 3840x1200 and 1024x768 Keyboard MicrosoftNaturalKeyboard 4000/Apple Alu keyboard/Dinovo mini Mouse Logitech G5/MarbleMouseTrackball/PerformanceMX/SpacePilotPRO PSU Corsair TX 850W Case Cooler Master HAF932 Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer Extreme and plenty of fans... Hard Drives 2 WDC 1TB
1 WDC 1.5TB
1 WDC 640GB
1 WDC 320GB
1 Seagate 200GB Internet Speed 1.5Mbps down/384Kbps up Other Info APC SURT 1000XL
Logitech Z-560
Wiimote
Mikrotik Router
Linksys (now Cisco) SD2008 8 port Gigabit switch
Linksys WRT54G (acting as AP)
Apple wireless Aluminium keyboard
Apple Magic Mouse
Xbox360 wired controller |
10 Jul 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Earth - I wish I was on Risa |
Application MHz=bandwidth Cat Cable type Mbps/Gbps=maximum data rate
1 UTP Analog voice
2 UTP Digital voice up to 1 Mbps
3 UTP, ScTP, STP 16 MHz, 4 Mbps
4 UTP, ScTP, STP 20 MHz, 16 Mbps
5 UTP, ScTP, STP 100 MHz, 100 Mbps
5e UTP, ScTP, STP 100 MHz, 1 Gbps
6 UTP, ScTP, STP 200 MHz, 10 Gbps
7 STP, ScTP 600 MHz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_6_cable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_7_cable | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OP760 OS Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Memory 8GB Monitor(s) Displays 2 Dell 19" LCD Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Dell Mouse Dell Optical Internet Speed 40meg |
10 Jul 2010
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#9 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |

Quote: Originally Posted by haxcid 
Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 First there is absolutly no difference between CAT6 and CAT5 cable either will work.
Are you using homegroup?
Try to set up a new network connection using workgroup. See if it works
Ken First... Absolutely untrue statement. Cat5/5e is rated to operate at 100Mhz. Cat6 is rated for 200Mhz. Modern switches detect this and will operate the port accordingly.
Secondly. He should be using a cross over cable or a switch. You can also do it as adhok network wirelessly. You should not use a regular Cat cable.
Connect the 2 machines via switch or cross over cable. - Open Network and Sharing Center by clicking the Start button, clicking Control Panel, clicking Network and Internet, and then clicking Network and Sharing Center.
- In the network map at the top of Network and Sharing Center, double-click the Unidentified network* icon. (If you have more than one network, this icon will be labeled Multiple networks.)
- If network discovery and file sharing are turned off, in Network, click the Information bar containing the following message: "Network discovery and file sharing are turned off. Network computers and devices are not visible. Click to change...," and then click Turn on network discovery and file sharing. If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
In the Network discovery and file sharing dialog box, select one of the following options:
make the network that I am connected to a private network.
Yes, turn on network discovery and file sharing for all public networks The first option is usually the best choice because it only affects the network that you are connected to.
Not to be obstreperous but in terms of this discussion they are interchangeable/
Second of course either a crossover cable or a bridged connection is nec.
In any case the OP should solve that problem before creating a homegroup
Ken | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
12 Jul 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit |
Thank you guys.
What I did was going to Local Security Policy - Network List Manager Policies - Unidentified Networks - User Permissions and change it from user cannot change location to user can change location.
Still I will try the homegroup too. I will check the tutorials for that. I will write here the results.
Thanks all. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G72 Notebook OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit CPU Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 2.53 GHz Memory 6GB DDRII Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M Sound Card EAX Advanced HD 4.0 + Logitech Wireless Headset G930 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 Cooling Targus Hard Drives 2 x Seagate Momentus 500 GB 5400.6 SATA 3Gb/s Internet Speed 3 to 6 Mbps Download / .5 to 1 Mbps Upload Other Info Clear Modem with Wi-fi*
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