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Windows 7: CAT 6 Network x64

08 Jul 2010   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 
CAT 6 Network x64

I am trying to connect 2 notebooks with a CAT 6 cable.
One is Ultimate x64, the other one is Home Premium x64.

After I connect with the cable, it identifies it as a unidentified network and sees it as a public network and does not give me the option to change it to a home or work network.

When I open network, it says that "network discovery is not on, would you like to make it on" and after that screen it gives 2 options : turning the network discovery on or making the network I am connected to a private network.

When I choose the second option to make the network I am connected as private, it makes both this network and the wireless network as work network.

When it does this, I am having to change the wireless network to public manually.

Is there any easier way to connect 2 notebooks (with Windows 7 x64) with a CAT 6 cable without going through this? I mean these 2 notebooks are always the same and I was just wondering if there is something that I do not know easier.

Thanks.

P.S.: I want network discovery off for public networks (as it is now).


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08 Jul 2010   #2

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IMAyNeed View Post
I am trying to connect 2 notebooks with a CAT 6 cable.
One is Ultimate x64, the other one is Home Premium x64.

After I connect with the cable, it identifies it as a unidentified network and sees it as a public network and does not give me the option to change it to a home or work network.

When I open network, it says that "network discovery is not on, would you like to make it on" and after that screen it gives 2 options : turning the network discovery on or making the network I am connected to a private network.

When I choose the second option to make the network I am connected as private, it makes both this network and the wireless network as work network.

When it does this, I am having to change the wireless network to public manually.

Is there any easier way to connect 2 notebooks (with Windows 7 x64) with a CAT 6 cable without going through this? I mean these 2 notebooks are always the same and I was just wondering if there is something that I do not know easier.

Thanks.

P.S.: I want network discovery off for public networks (as it is now).

First there is absolutly no difference between CAT6 and CAT5 cable either will work.

Are you using homegroup?

Try to set up a new network connection using workgroup. See if it works

Ken
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09 Jul 2010   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

No, I am not using homegroup, actually I would like to.

How can I setup a new network connection using workgroup? I didn't understand that.
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09 Jul 2010   #4

Windows 7; Server 08; Window Home Server; Vista; XP
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
First there is absolutly no difference between CAT6 and CAT5 cable either will work.

Are you using homegroup?

Try to set up a new network connection using workgroup. See if it works

Ken
First... Absolutely untrue statement. Cat5/5e is rated to operate at 100Mhz. Cat6 is rated for 200Mhz. Modern switches detect this and will operate the port accordingly.

Secondly. He should be using a cross over cable or a switch. You can also do it as adhok network wirelessly. You should not use a regular Cat cable.



Connect the 2 machines via switch or cross over cable.
  1. Open Network and Sharing Center by clicking the Start button, clicking Control Panel, clicking Network and Internet, and then clicking Network and Sharing Center.
  2. In the network map at the top of Network and Sharing Center, double-click the Unidentified network* icon. (If you have more than one network, this icon will be labeled Multiple networks.)
  3. If network discovery and file sharing are turned off, in Network, click the Information bar containing the following message: "Network discovery and file sharing are turned off. Network computers and devices are not visible. Click to change...," and then click Turn on network discovery and file sharing. If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
In the Network discovery and file sharing dialog box, select one of the following options:

make the network that I am connected to a private network.

Yes, turn on network discovery and file sharing for all public networks The first option is usually the best choice because it only affects the network that you are connected to.
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10 Jul 2010   #5

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

My cable says CAT 6 Cross Over-7' on it.
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10 Jul 2010   #6

Windows 7; Server 08; Window Home Server; Vista; XP
 
 

If you are using a crossover then following the posted instructions should do it. You will need matching user accounts on both machines.

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10 Jul 2010   #7

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

CAT-5 and CAT-6 cables doesn't really differ other than CAT-6 can run 1Gbps at longer cable length than CAT-5e (CAT-5e can run GigE speed too, but shorter cable length than CAT-6). As for networking 2 PCs running Windows 7, there's nothing easier than just enable Homegroup (and pray that it will work at the first time). There's a lot of tutorials covering this topic in the Tutorials section...

zzz2496
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10 Jul 2010   #8

Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
 
 

Application
MHz=bandwidth
Cat Cable type Mbps/Gbps=maximum data rate
1 UTP Analog voice
2 UTP Digital voice up to 1 Mbps
3 UTP, ScTP, STP 16 MHz, 4 Mbps
4 UTP, ScTP, STP 20 MHz, 16 Mbps
5 UTP, ScTP, STP 100 MHz, 100 Mbps
5e UTP, ScTP, STP 100 MHz, 1 Gbps
6 UTP, ScTP, STP 200 MHz, 10 Gbps
7 STP, ScTP 600 MHz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_6_cable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_7_cable
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10 Jul 2010   #9

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by haxcid View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
First there is absolutly no difference between CAT6 and CAT5 cable either will work.

Are you using homegroup?

Try to set up a new network connection using workgroup. See if it works

Ken
First... Absolutely untrue statement. Cat5/5e is rated to operate at 100Mhz. Cat6 is rated for 200Mhz. Modern switches detect this and will operate the port accordingly.

Secondly. He should be using a cross over cable or a switch. You can also do it as adhok network wirelessly. You should not use a regular Cat cable.



Connect the 2 machines via switch or cross over cable.
  1. Open Network and Sharing Center by clicking the Start button, clicking Control Panel, clicking Network and Internet, and then clicking Network and Sharing Center.
  2. In the network map at the top of Network and Sharing Center, double-click the Unidentified network* icon. (If you have more than one network, this icon will be labeled Multiple networks.)
  3. If network discovery and file sharing are turned off, in Network, click the Information bar containing the following message: "Network discovery and file sharing are turned off. Network computers and devices are not visible. Click to change...," and then click Turn on network discovery and file sharing. If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
In the Network discovery and file sharing dialog box, select one of the following options:

make the network that I am connected to a private network.

Yes, turn on network discovery and file sharing for all public networks The first option is usually the best choice because it only affects the network that you are connected to.

Not to be obstreperous but in terms of this discussion they are interchangeable/

Second of course either a crossover cable or a bridged connection is nec.

In any case the OP should solve that problem before creating a homegroup

Ken
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12 Jul 2010   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Thank you guys.

What I did was going to Local Security Policy - Network List Manager Policies - Unidentified Networks - User Permissions and change it from user cannot change location to user can change location.

Still I will try the homegroup too. I will check the tutorials for that. I will write here the results.

Thanks all.
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