| Windows 7: Windows 8 Will Be the Beginning of the End for 7 |
15 Aug 2010
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#11 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
True. The problem was people became far too comfortable with XP and then didn't want to leave due to the long development schedule of Vista and then its awful reception. Anyone remember "The Wow starts now!" Oh yeah, people wowed alright. All in all, I like Vista and it improved over time with SP1 and then SP2 made it really solid. | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i3 530 2.93 Ghz Clarkdale Motherboard ASRock P55 PRO/USB3 LGA 1156 Memory 4 GB OCZ DDR3 1600 (PC12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti with 1 GB of RAM Sound Card Realtek HD ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays 20'' eMachines E202HDbmd Glare Panel Widescreen Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop Elite Mouse Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop Elite PSU Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-D-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V (750W) Case Cooler Master Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP Mid-Tower Cooling Standard Case Fans and Stock CPU Heatsink Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Black Edition (7200 RPM) SATA
Hitachi Deskstar 500 GB (7200 RPM) SATA
Samsung SpinPoint 400 GB (7200 RPM) SATA Internet Speed 7.1 Mbps Verizon DSL |
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#12 | | |
In my personal opinion, I think Microsoft is going to have an uphill battle if they plan on releasing Windows 8, especially so soon.
Pretty much only the enthusiast crowd will upgrade their systems. The rest of the sales would be reliant on new PC OEM licenses.
If they are finally getting businesses and such to finally ditch XP, and move on to 7, there is absolutely no way Microsoft will have success moving Windows 8 to that market.
I'm hoping they wait five years, and really put out something special.
If they do rush Windows 8 out on the market, it will be interesting. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba P300 OS Windows 8 Pro CPU Intel Centrino Dual Core P7450 2.13GHz Memory 4gb Graphics Card ATI Mobility Raedon HD3650 Hard Drives Toshiba MK3252GSX ATA Internet Speed Wish it were faster |
15 Aug 2010
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#13 | | Windows 7 32bit, Windows XP Pro., Ubunto. Surrey, UK |
Will it get the free downgrade to Win XP | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Various desktops, laptops and network storage devices. OS Windows 7 32bit, Windows XP Pro., Ubunto. Other Info Also main desktop set up as dual boot with XP Pro and Win7 Pro 32bit. |
15 Aug 2010
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#14 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
Vista turned out to be far more stablle but wasn't what people had expected right off the bat! The less then actual system specs required also hurt the sales since people were still running 1gb or less memory wise on many old systems.
Just for XP it takes 2gb to see that run smoother overall. Many were adding the 3gb in when first getting into Vista and with board capacities running as high as 32gb. With 7 more are leaning towards the 64bit flavor of the edition they are running in order to take advantage of that.
One thing W8 will have to do however is match what was seen with a fast 32bit install of 7 on an old clunker and run off of XP drivers! Vista often lacked where 7 picked on the backward capatibility with the older version's drivers seen there as well as programs that will run on the 32bit 7 but not on the 32bit Vista. Take a step forward MS! | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
15 Aug 2010
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#15 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
From what I understand, 32-bit will probably go by the wayside though they may do 32-bit Windows 8, tough to say right now. But Steve Ballmer did say they no longer plan to ever have such a long development cycle for a new version of Windows like they did for Vista; they want to do a release approximately every 3 years. The problem is that if you keep people on an operating system too long, then they become comfortable with it and don't want to let go, hence the problem with XP. They also don't want a repitition of that problem. That OS is also why Internet Explorer 6 is still not dead. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i3 530 2.93 Ghz Clarkdale Motherboard ASRock P55 PRO/USB3 LGA 1156 Memory 4 GB OCZ DDR3 1600 (PC12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti with 1 GB of RAM Sound Card Realtek HD ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays 20'' eMachines E202HDbmd Glare Panel Widescreen Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop Elite Mouse Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop Elite PSU Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-D-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V (750W) Case Cooler Master Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP Mid-Tower Cooling Standard Case Fans and Stock CPU Heatsink Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Black Edition (7200 RPM) SATA
Hitachi Deskstar 500 GB (7200 RPM) SATA
Samsung SpinPoint 400 GB (7200 RPM) SATA Internet Speed 7.1 Mbps Verizon DSL |
15 Aug 2010
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#16 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
That's one MS was planning getting back to their original time frame of seeing a new version every 2-3yrs. mainly from all the headaches seen with Vista's development. This way if any other new version fails to win people over like they have been filling the airwaves with 7 ads they can recover later and soon with another next version.
It's not only the particular version that suffers but all of the MS Office products developed to work with that version taken into consideration when a new one bombs on them! MS has many branches in that sense where a flop can be a big setback. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
15 Aug 2010
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#17 | | Windows 7 x64 United Kingdom |

Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk I won't be dumping 7 any time soon but will likely end up with another dual boot!  Yup, same here. I have actually taken quite a liking to Windows 7, even though I was a bit hesitant to purchase it at first, I was leaning more towards a Mac, but for now, I'm happy with my decision. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Intel Pentium® Dual Core T4300 (2.1GHz) x64 Motherboard - Memory 3 GB Graphics Card Intel® GMA 4500M Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" HD LCD (or 42" Plasma) Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 PSU - Case - Cooling - Hard Drives 250 GB HDD |
15 Aug 2010
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#18 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 | OSX Lion 10.7 x64 Curitiba, Brazil |
Vista had a hard time being accepted, thanks to all the unsuccesstully Vista stories each and every sites were reporting. And yes, those who got a brand new computer pre-loaded with Vista -- back in pre-SP1 days -- got a huge OS in a humble hardware.
In fact, if we get today's hardware and load Vista on them, they will run pretty comfortable. But hey, we can't go back in time (yet). Vista was indeed sluggish. Should we blame Intel and other hardware manufacturers by not keeping the pace and then creating all this Vista fiasco?
Now, even after SP1 and SP2, companies still avoided Vista completely, may be because of their current "outdated" hardware, may be because of the past bad experiences. Or because Windows XP was doing just fine, thank you. And by lefting Vista aside, companies played the biggest role in killing Vista: (regular) users tends to have at home what they use at work, because, well, they are used to. The exception are us, enthusiasts, which get betas, developer previews, and aren't afraid of a "format c:" once in a while.
Back in the topic, I find too early for a complete Windows 7 sales halt. Windows 7 did not made yet to vast majority of companies, even with XP being declared dead. Windows 7 will yet live a long life, and Win8 may not show up unless it is a real game changer. Or, if Microsoft really wants, as many posted above, to create "ME III: The Revenge of Vista". I hardly believe that.
Only time will tell. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 | OSX Lion 10.7 x64 CPU Intel Core i5 750 Motherboard Asus P7P55D LE Memory 4x Corsair Value DDR-3 1333MHz 2Gb Graphics Card Sapphire HD4850 512Mb HDMI+DVI+VGA Sound Card Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Syncmaster 245BW Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard Mouse Razer Deathadder PSU Seventeam 650W ATX 2.3 Case Coolermaster Centurion 532 Cooling Stock cooling system Hard Drives Samsung Spinpoint 160Gb
Seagate Barracuda 200Gb Internet Speed 10Mbit Down / 1Mbit Up ADSL2+M Other Info Apple AirPort Extreme 802.11n (single band)
1Tb External USB HDD (AEBS volume)
Linksys WAG120N ADSL2+ Modem/Router |
15 Aug 2010
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#19 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Liberty University |
I have no problem with MS releasing a new Windows every 3 years, as long as they standardize the core components of Windows like Apple has done with OS X. If MS is going to release a completely-changed-around, totally-reworked-from-the-ground-up version of Windows every 3 years, compatibility is going to become a nightmare and Windows will lose significant market share. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware X51 OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 @3.40GHz Memory 8.00GB DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 555 w/1.0GB RAM Monitor(s) Displays BenQ XL2420TX Screen Resolution 1920x1080@120Hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless Illuminated Keyboard K800 Mouse Razer Orochi PSU 330-watt Hard Drives 1TB Internet Speed Campus Internet |
15 Aug 2010
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#20 | | |
I don't think they expect someone upgrading and existing PC that has Windows 7 (or even Vista). It is about new PCs and laptops that come with an OS. and of course that almost always will be the current OS.
In case of vista, they offered free XP downgrades when the hardware wasn't good enough.
vist alos was a flop because people upgraded existing systems (that weren't up to speed, and hardware didn't have good drivers). Reputable PC vendors would have sold Vista with appropriate hardware and drivers. not the fault of MS | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homemade OS W7 Pro 64 CPU Intel i3 3220 @ 3.3 GHz Motherboard ASRock H77M Memory 2x8GB DDR 3 1600 Kingston Graphics Card onboard Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays two 21" LCD PSU OCZ400MXSP Cooling Stock Hard Drives 128 GB Samsung 830 Internet Speed DSL Windows 8 Will Be the Beginning of the End for 7 problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:44 AM. | |