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Windows 7: VMware's Maritz virtually pronounces death of Windows

04 Sep 2010   #11
Petey7

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
 
 

We already have given most of our lives over to computers. Drive a car made after '83? It has a computer controlling everything. Us a telephone? The switch board is controlled by computers. Watch TV? Computers are used in every step of the process. Listen to the radio? Radio stations use computers for 90% of the stuff they do now. Have a bank account? Everything is kept track of by computers. Use any fancy, all digital appliances? They have computers in them too.

As for the death of Windows because of virtualization technology, not on your life. I also don't like the idea of cloud computing. I like how computers work now, but I guess some people always want something different.


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07 Sep 2010   #12
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I'm not a cloud type person. I want to control my computer and store what I want on my computer or other in house methods. I have a program that allows (XXXXX) amount of cloud storage but I won't use it. The big problem to me is cloud computing has poor security. Just a reminder. All the social web sites that people put passwords and personal information on; they get hit with bad things all the time. Is that not a type of cloud computing? You install and store personal information on some other person computer. (Facebook, UTube ect.)
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07 Sep 2010   #13
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Capt.Jack Sparrow View Post
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It could not have been easy for former Microsoft exec Paul Maritz to pronounce the death of the operating system today.
Maritz, who is CEO of VMware, said during his keynote today that virtualization and new application frameworks combined represent the de facto operating system for the IT-as-a-Service era since the two layers of the new stack handle all of the hardware and application services once provided by operating systems.
Okay, Maritz did not pronounce the death of Windows verbatim but referred to the “changing role” of the OS as a legacy software layer that needs to get a new life. He did say the era of client/server is over.
More: VMware's Maritz virtually pronounces death of Windows | ZDNet
Hi this is about as informative as those REALLY STUPID articles that come from Gartners.

This guy obviously has two orifices that work as extruding places for Bovine Scatology -- with the larger one being his mouth rather than the more conventional Rectum.

Virtual Machines to those that use them ARE a good idea but without a machine to "Virtualise" then what on Earth is the guy saying.

Even the Cloud will need some type of browser to acess it -- there is nothing wrong with having a browser as an OS - some Motherboards allow direct web access from the BIOS before Windows even boots but it's STILL an OS.

Cheers
jimbo
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07 Sep 2010   #14
Lebon14

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

What this guy says can't be more wrong...
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07 Sep 2010   #15
xarden

Windows 7 Enterprise
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
I'm not a cloud type person. I want to control my computer and store what I want on my computer or other in house methods. I have a program that allows (XXXXX) amount of cloud storage but I won't use it. The big problem to me is cloud computing has poor security. Just a reminder. All the social web sites that people put passwords and personal information on; they get hit with bad things all the time. Is that not a type of cloud computing? You install and store personal information on some other person computer. (Facebook, UTube ect.)
Whole heartedly agree.
The more of you that is online, the more of "you" that can be stolen.
And because you dont own the hardware that "you online" is stored on, you dont own "you" anymore. (Read the 8pt T&C's of service before you click 'agree'.)

You are only paying for the service to access "yourself".
I'd rather pay to access someone else...

edit:
However, I would agree with the cloud computing/virtualization in environments such as local government/schools/universities, as they have their own servers and hardware. The end users do not own the software or hardware, and have very little personal data stored.

I would maybe consider a private, isolated cloud. Whereas I'd have a terminal in every room of my house running off my own server in the basement.
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07 Sep 2010   #16
BCXtreme

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I also don't want to see computing become entirely cloud-based. I like having some things on the cloud, like email, calendar, contacts, and a few non-essentials. But I think the day Microsoft switches to a fully cloud-based system, will be the day Mac and Linux take over the corporate market.

And it sounds like most of us agree that "virtual" computing is far from superior to real, physical computing; especially considering that the latter is required for the former.
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07 Sep 2010   #17
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

I suppose we are all moving to the "MATRIX"

Then again maybe we already did Neo?
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07 Sep 2010   #18
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by xarden View Post
I would maybe consider a private, isolated cloud.
Isolated being the key word.

The idea of bringing the past into the future with dumb terminals is fundamentally a good and potentially beneficial idea, but as many have already said before and will say in the future - We don't like it because we don't trust it.

Part of that mistrust is the obfuscated nature of the explanations about how cloud computing will actually be implemented that leaves us leery of it.

Without hard facts about how this is exactly going to work, we are left with more questions than answers and our imagination tends to fuel our fears in the absence of facts that could potentially mollify our fears and encourage us to embrace, rather than reject, the idea of cloud computing.

Another large part is resistance to change.

We are used to the way things work now. For many varying reasons, we simply don't want it to change. For home use, I know I wouldn't want my 'cloud' to be anything other than 'personal and isolated'.

But with the ever increasing redefining of the word 'privacy' coupled with the usage of online stores, storage, apps, accounts, mobile devices etc, we are essentially being groomed for a cloud based lifestyle already.


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And I don't think that VMWare CEO is talking complete rubbish. Just look at the exponential improvements and proliferation of Virtual usage now. Given enough time time and refinements, I think his vision is entirely plausible.

Focusing on current hardware and current software is not the best way to look at this. Thinking forward and how it potentially could be implemented, it starts to make sense.


Using a corporate environment for example, if you could replace each typical workstation that consists of a complete PC and OS and the costs involved and replace that entire workstation with much cheaper, yet limited hardware functionality that connects to a 'dedicated machine' and a lower licensing cost per station, then it starts to look not only pretty attractive, but more importantly, feasible.

A complete PC with an OS isn't going away any time soon, but there will inevitably be markets for this guys sort of vision.
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08 Sep 2010   #19
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there

what happens if you want to work in a place that DOESN'T have Internet - for example you might be using a computer on the High Speed Eurostar Rail link between London and Brussels / Paris and you are temporarily delayed while the train is in the Channel Tunnel.

Or for all sorts of reasons the Internet service could be down , your router is broken etc etc.

I think PERSONAL data and documents I'd ALWAYS keep locally -- I don't mind running applications even if they are hosted on Planet Jupiter so long as I could do a minimum amount of work when these services weren't available for any reason.

The Sheer HORROR and AWFUL experience of using today's Call Centres doesn't either fill me with any hope on the inevitable occasions were the service HAS a problem and you want to get a fix or report an incident that the problems would be quickly resolved either.

Some things can be cloud based but I'd always want some local offline capability too.

Cheers
jimbo
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08 Sep 2010   #20
patio

Vista Ultimate X64/ Windows 7 Dual-boot
 
 

Someone needs to check his medication...
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