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Windows 7 - No 64-bit (x64) Firefox 4.0, 32-bit (x86) Only – List of Supported.... |
09-05-2010
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#31 | | Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04 |

Quote: Originally Posted by BCXtreme 
Quote: Originally Posted by Airbot They don't even have it in development for Windows. I don't think they would have any problem doing it. They have 64 bit photoshop, etc. They know how to do it, they have some unknown reason that no one knows of why they won't do it. And the reason they give that it's not in demand is pure bull. Especially when you consider that Flash Player is a free product that doesn't get them any revenue. There's no reason for them not to do it, but some developers can be infuriatingly stubborn...
P.S. Nice new avatar, Mr. Android!  Seeing as how the the Internet Explorer Flash Player Install page has an option to install a Google Toolbar, do they not generate revenue from that? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom | Whitebox OS Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04 CPU Intel E6750 @ 3.80GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L (Revision 1.1) Memory 2x2GB & 2x1GB (6GB) OCZ Reaper 1066MHz @ 1080MHz Graphics Card EVGA nVidia GTX 260 896mb (216 Core) FTW Edition Sound Card Realtek ALC888 Monitor(s) Displays 21" VIZIO TV Screen Resolution 1680x1050 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless S520 Mouse Logitech Wireless S520 - Microsoft Wireless Arc Mouse PSU Corsair 750W Case NZXT Nemesis Elite Cooling Thermaltake SpinQ Hard Drives Western Digital WD6401AALS - 640GB
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09-05-2010
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#32 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 |

Quote: Originally Posted by BCXtreme Sometimes lack of understanding is misconstrued as lack of demand. If there was a 64-bit Flash, every 64-bit user would jump on board, and in short order wouldn't be able to live without it. Given that so many computers now come with 3-4GB of RAM and 64-bit Windows 7, how many people do you think probably would benefit from 64-bit Flash, that don't even know what the term "64-bit" means?
People can live without 64-bit Flash, yes. People can also live without 64-bit Photoshop, and without 64-bit Windows. That doesn't mean they wouldn't take those things if they're available. From my observance of the tech world, it seems like a lot of products create their own demand simply by existing (i.e. it's a non-essential, but if it's there, people want it). Well said.
I think that also ties in with another issue, which is reaching the critical mass of 64-Bit acceptance where it becomes the norm. Maybe there is no huge advantage to having a 64-Bit browser to begin with, making not having as much of a choice between them as we'd like moot. But your average joe who fires up his 64-Bit IE and can't view all the content he's used to seeing because of a lack of Flash support is probably going to decide that every 64-Bit app is just as useless, so why bother? After all, if something as commonplace and necessary as a web browser "doesn't work right" in a 64-Bit version, why mess with a 64-Bit version of Photoshop?
Then we can all sit back and read the stories in the tech magazines where the pointy-headed nerds are all scratching their pointy little heads wondering why 64-Bit "never really caught on". Let's face it, if it weren't for the fact that lots of OEMs are now pushing out the 64-Bit version of Windows 7 it wouldn't have near the acceptance it does today. I bet half of the people who have bought a new computer since Win 7 came out and are running a 64-Bit OS don't even really think about it very much, if at all. Until the majority of casual users see a reason to start insisting on having 64-Bit stuff available there will be a lot of foot-dragging going on on the part of software companies, even for programs which could really put it to good use. Not being able to use your preferred browser because of a tiny little detail like Flash isn't helping matters. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
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09-06-2010
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I find it amazing since x64 bit versions of Microsoft, Linux etc have been released, that more programs aren't x64 bit compatible.
I mean really its been awhile now. I wonder what the problem is? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Evga X58 OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Core i7 950 - 3.06 GHz Motherboard EVGA X58 SLI Memory OCZ OCZ3G1600V6GK (3x2GB) Graphics Card GeForce GT 220 - GeForce 9800GT 1GB AKIMBO Sound Card High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VH242H 24 LCD Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU ANTEC QUATTRO TPQ-1000 1000W ATX EPS12V Case ANTEC NINE HUNDRED TWO Cooling ZALMAN CNPS10X Extreme Hard Drives 2x - Seagate 1000GB Hard Drive SATA 3Gb/s 32MB Cache
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09-06-2010
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#34 | | Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) |

Quote: Originally Posted by Airbot They don't even have it in development for Windows. I don't think they would have any problem doing it. They have 64 bit photoshop, etc. They know how to do it, they have some unknown reason that no one knows of why they won't do it. And the reason they give that it's not in demand is pure bull. A huge +1 
Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 Since all of you seem to be very passionate about a 64-bit browser and are scouring looking for an alternative 64-bit browser from the Mozilla website...could somebody answer my previous question and fill me on the benefits of using a 64-bit version of Firefox? Much safer! In Fact Extremely Safe! I do security testing and we did a large scale test of browsing the internet. 64bit browsers DID NOT infect the computer with anything while the same test with 32bit DID infect the computer. So as of now you are much safer browsing the web with 64bit, until the kids start building for 64bit. Now that I said that I am sure there are 12,000 new malware for 64bit. UGH! 
Quote: Originally Posted by Everlong 
Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 Since all of you seem to be very passionate about a 64-bit browser and are scouring looking for an alternative 64-bit browser from the Mozilla website...could somebody answer my previous question and fill me on the benefits of using a 64-bit version of Firefox? Slightly faster in quite a few web benchmarks. Only able to use 64 bit ActiveX controls if you're worried about security, as there's less ActiveX controls available. If you're not bothered about Flash then it's worth using a 64-bit browser.
Though once HTML5 properly takes off, there will be no point to 64-bit Flash. Can't wait for HTML5, I am so tired of Adobe's excuses, and their still to this day attitude about Windows. Look Apple lost the OS war get over it. UGH! 
Quote: Originally Posted by Lebon14 
Quote: Originally Posted by KazeNoKoe23 Meh, until there's a 64-bit version of Flash, this isn't a big deal. This. I don't see why moving from x86 until Adobe move their arse. When they do, the rest will follow. Adobe may just cut themselves out of the market completely. If HTML5 takes off and Silverlight gets more and more popular they may lose the battle. They need to get 64bit out the door yesterday if they want to stay in the game. So many users have embraced Microsoft's hard push on 64bit. With the quiet rumors of 128bit Windows Server coming out for Window 8 we may only have 64bit and 128bit for quite awhile. Currently Windows Server 2008 R2 only comes in 64bit, Microsoft already dropped the 32bit so the hard push to go 64bit is here to stay. JMHO.
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09-06-2010
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Is there a Silverlight plugin for x64? If not, MS can really get a jump on Adobe here... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number CreepinJesus Mk. IV OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i5-2500 3.3GHz Motherboard Asus P8H67-M PRO Memory 8GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card On-board Sound Card On-board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster BX2250 22.5" LED-backlit LCD Screen Resolution 1920 * 1080 Keyboard Logitech K430 Mouse Generic Logitech from the bargain-bin by the checkout PSU Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-650M Case Lian-Li PC-A04 Cooling Standard fans. Hard Drives OCZ Agility 3 120GB, SATA-III Internet Speed Over 9000! ...Mbps. Other Info Chocolate digestives are my favourite biscuit. |
09-06-2010
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#36 | | MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by CreepinJesus Is there a Silverlight plugin for x64? If not, MS can really get a jump on Adobe here... Pretty much came to post this.
Was going to ask was Silverlight not similar to flash. Have just read up on it and yeah, seems like MS could jump in here. | My System Specs | | OS MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit CPU AMD Penom II X4 965 3.4GHz Black Edition Motherboard Asus Crosshair IV Formula Memory 4.0GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Graphics Card AMD Radeon XFX HD6870 1GB Sound Card ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 22" LG Flatron E225V / 40" Sony KDL-40V4000 Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 / 1920 x 1080 PSU Corsair Profesional Series HX850W Case Corsair Obsidian 800D Cooling Corsair Hydro Series H50 CPU Cooler Hard Drives 1.5TB & 500GB Seagates, 1TB Hitachi USB External Internet Speed 10mbps |
09-06-2010
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#37 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by kylehimself 
Quote: Originally Posted by CreepinJesus Is there a Silverlight plugin for x64? If not, MS can really get a jump on Adobe here... Pretty much came to post this.
Was going to ask was Silverlight not similar to flash. Have just read up on it and yeah, seems like MS could jump in here. Nope - no sign of x64 Silverlight yet. But seeing as MS are popular-ising a 64-bit OS, Office, and a 64-bit browser, may as well start making their add-ins work with 64-bit! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number CreepinJesus Mk. IV OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i5-2500 3.3GHz Motherboard Asus P8H67-M PRO Memory 8GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card On-board Sound Card On-board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster BX2250 22.5" LED-backlit LCD Screen Resolution 1920 * 1080 Keyboard Logitech K430 Mouse Generic Logitech from the bargain-bin by the checkout PSU Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-650M Case Lian-Li PC-A04 Cooling Standard fans. Hard Drives OCZ Agility 3 120GB, SATA-III Internet Speed Over 9000! ...Mbps. Other Info Chocolate digestives are my favourite biscuit. |
09-06-2010
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#38 | | windows 7 home premium 64/SP1 |
Reasons. 32 bit is going to be like 16 bit is (gone). It won't happen over night but it will happen. I have I.E. 8 32 and 64 and still I use Firefox. I would like to see Firefox in 64 because it would be safer for a while anyway. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made OS windows 7 home premium 64/SP1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS with Corsair cooler Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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09-06-2010
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#39 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by BCXtreme Sometimes lack of understanding is misconstrued as lack of demand. If there was a 64-bit Flash, every 64-bit user would jump on board, and in short order wouldn't be able to live without it. Given that so many computers now come with 3-4GB of RAM and 64-bit Windows 7, how many people do you think probably would benefit from 64-bit Flash, that don't even know what the term "64-bit" means? This isn't a situation where I misunderstood. I too would likely download and use a 64-bit browser if 64-bit flash was available on it. And I agree that a majority of people with 64-bit operating systems would do the same thing.
However, it doesn't seem that Adobe feels there is enough need "yet", to put the effort into creating it. My point is that clearly Adobe feels there is not enough demand for it...either that or there is a major development stumbling block that we don't understand. 
Quote: Originally Posted by WindowsStar So many users have embraced Microsoft's hard push on 64bit. I don't think Microsoft has been pushing hard at 64-bit at all. We had 64-bit for Windows XP (which was quite awful), then 64-bit for Vista and now Windows 7. I'd say with Windows 7, it's the first time that it's really been adopted and that's mostly from people who want to utilize 4GB of RAM or more. 
Quote: Originally Posted by WindowsStar With the quiet rumors of 128bit Windows Server coming out for Window 8 I would be absolutely SHOCKED if this were to occur unless they delay Windows 8 by at least 5-8 years. We don't even had a 128-bit CPU right around the corner for the consumer market. 
Quote: Originally Posted by WindowsStar Currently Windows Server 2008 R2 only comes in 64bit, Microsoft already dropped the 32bit so the hard push to go 64bit is here to stay. JMHO. Yes, this is the first server release that is 64-bit. And I think for a lot of shops with new hardware they are rolling out the 64-bit system. However, since there isn't an upgrade path for non 64-bit systems which are already deployed, it's going to be quite a number of years before the 32-bit systems go away.
I honestly feel we are going to be in a 32/64 world for the next 10 years. Just as we were in a 16/32 bit world for more than 10 years. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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09-06-2010
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#40 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks This isn't a situation where I misunderstood. I too would likely download and use a 64-bit browser if 64-bit flash was available on it. And I agree that a majority of people with 64-bit operating systems would do the same thing. I did not mean to imply that you were misunderstanding. I was referring to the people who have been pushed to 64-bit by default by getting more powerful computers, that might not know enough about 64-bit to say they want x64 Flash.
I would download a 64-bit browser even without 64-bit Flash, as long as 32-bit Flash would still work on it (which would obviously be a prerequisite for any 64-bit browser; to require 64-bit Flash would be like requiring Windows 8 for 2010 software). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware X51 OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 @3.40GHz Memory 8.00GB DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 555 w/1.0GB RAM Monitor(s) Displays BenQ XL2420TX Screen Resolution 1920x1080@120Hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless Illuminated Keyboard K800 Mouse Razer Orochi PSU 330-watt Hard Drives 1TB Internet Speed Campus Internet All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:02 PM. |  |