Technet Plus changed and Reduced number of Keys to 5

Company X comes up with Plan A
People fold it, spindle it, mutilate it, and figure out how to get around it.

Company X come up with Plan A.1
People fold it, spindle it, mutilate it, and figure out how to get around it.

Company X comes up with Plan A.2
People fold it, spindle it, mutilate it, and figure out how to get around it.

Accept this, adapt to it, and move on down the road.

In the end, we each have to determine our own level of honsety.
In the end, there is no right way to do the wrong thing.

Hi there
Sorry to belabour this point -- but it's NOT the change per se that is the problem BUT THEY CHANGED THE CONDITIONS AFTER I'D SIGNED THE DEAL.

That's what is WRONG WRONG WRONG.

If a deal is made it should be adhered to for the duration of the agreement however inconvenient for the company.

Existing suscribers should be left on the OLD system until their subscription runs out --simple --end of story.

While it probably IS in the tiny small print of conditions nobody ever reads its still a TOTALLY UNETHICAL WAY of doing business and a responsible company like Microsoft SHOULD behave with proper Corporate Governance instead of employing tactics that a 3rd World Corrupt African politician would be proud of.

Cheers
jimbo

Hi Dark Nova gamer

points really are these

1) Nobody has any issue with MS wanting to tighten up on piracy and protect its "intellectual" property namely Windows 7 etc etc.

2) The use of the Software is still pretty liberal even with the new policy since each product can be activaated 10 times and will continue to function indefinitely.

So no Issue there -- and it IS well known that some Technet keys have been appearing on EBAY and Torrent sites.

3) and this is MY biggest gripe but doesn't seem to bother anyone is that they have CHANGED the conditions AFTER I SIGNED UP.

Now for me the actual usage difference won't affect me but the current system IS NOT WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR. I probably would have signed up anyway even with the new system but CHANGING THE RULES HALF WAY THROUGH IMO is not on.

They should let existing suscribers stay with what they signed up for until the subscriptions run out and then its up to them whether they renew or not.

Incidentally it is EASIER to control piracy with a smaller number of keys since its easier to track to whom those keys were issued. By still allowing say 10 activations per key rather than ONE activation per key then the end user still has the convenience of the use of the product and its simpler for MS to keep a record of it.

I don't OBJECT to the change -- its probably a good idea anyway but DONT DO THIS BEFORE NOTIFYING EXISTING SUSCRIBERS ABOUT THIS AND THEN EITHER OFFER THEM A REFUND OR A NEW CONTRACT.

That's normal business practices in these situations if a drastic change needs to be made during the lifetime of a contract.

Cheers
jimbo

kodi said:

jimbo45 said:

Hi Dark Nova gamer

points really are these

1) Nobody has any issue with MS wanting to tighten up on piracy and protect its "intellectual" property namely Windows 7 etc etc.

2) The use of the Software is still pretty liberal even with the new policy since each product can be activaated 10 times and will continue to function indefinitely.

So no Issue there -- and it IS well known that some Technet keys have been appearing on EBAY and Torrent sites.

3) and this is MY biggest gripe but doesn't seem to bother anyone is that they have CHANGED the conditions AFTER I SIGNED UP.

Now for me the actual usage difference won't affect me but the current system IS NOT WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR. I probably would have signed up anyway even with the new system but CHANGING THE RULES HALF WAY THROUGH IMO is not on.

They should let existing suscribers stay with what they signed up for until the subscriptions run out and then its up to them whether they renew or not.

Incidentally it is EASIER to control piracy with a smaller number of keys since its easier to track to whom those keys were issued. By still allowing say 10 activations per key rather than ONE activation per key then the end user still has the convenience of the use of the product and its simpler for MS to keep a record of it.

I don't OBJECT to the change -- its probably a good idea anyway but DONT DO THIS BEFORE NOTIFYING EXISTING SUSCRIBERS ABOUT THIS AND THEN EITHER OFFER THEM A REFUND OR A NEW CONTRACT.

That's normal business practices in these situations if a drastic change needs to be made during the lifetime of a contract.

Cheers
jimbo

When I signed up i thought i had a contract with them for a set amount of product downloads and now they have reduced the amount I signed up for so the contract should be re negotiated.
If I signed up for a 12 month magazine subscription and after 3 months they told me that they were only going to give me 6 monthly issues there would be a problem but because Microsoft is so large and has no effective rival
they can get away with it.
Microsoft should adhere to the agreement

Thanks Brian -- AT LAST someone has understood what I'm on about.

Not about the value of the subscription (still pretty good BTW) but the fact it CHANGED during the subscription period WITHOUT ANY PRIOR WARNING OR NOTIFICATION.

It probably DOES say on the small print that they can do this but TO ALL SLEAZEBAG AND SCUMBAG LAWYERS OUT THERE whatever the "Legal terminology says" there is still a sense of "Natural Justice" and Justice must also be SEEN to be working which in this case it clearly isn't.

It also makes a bad precedent since how can you EVER trust a contract from a large organisation again if this is the way they behave.

Operating like this puts the whole concept of "contract law" between customer and service provider into disrepute.

I can imagine what would happen to me if I said I'll provide 25 of your staff with Lunch every day for 7 USD a day each. A month later I tell the company -- (or in fact I DON'T tell the company) I just tell the 13th person who comes in for Lunch --sorry we've just changed the conditions to only giving Lunch for 12 people.

This point should be rammed home again and again since it's almost the whole basis of Contract Law and any SENSIBLE sort of commercial trading.

Cheers
Jimbo

will the keys expire after the subscription expires?