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Windows 7: U.S. Wants Easier Internet Wiretap measures

27 Sep 2010   #1

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 
U.S. Wants Easier Internet Wiretap measures

U.S. Wants to Make It Easier to Wiretap the Internet

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WASHINGTON — Federal law enforcement and national security officials are preparing to seek sweeping new regulations for the Internet, arguing that their ability to wiretap criminal and terrorism suspects is “going dark” as people increasingly communicate online instead of by telephone.

Essentially, officials want Congress to require all services that enable communications — including encrypted e-mail transmitters like BlackBerry, social networking Web sites like Facebook and software that allows direct “peer to peer” messaging like Skype — to be technically capable of complying if served with a wiretap order. The mandate would include being able to intercept and unscramble encrypted messages.

The bill, which the Obama administration plans to submit to lawmakers next year, raises fresh questions about how to balance security needs with protecting privacy and fostering innovation. And because security services around the world face the same problem, it could set an example that is copied globally.
Source - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/us..._r=1&th&emc=th

Just gotta love Big Brother watching out for us

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27 Sep 2010   #2

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

You can trust the government; just ask any Native American.
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27 Sep 2010   #3

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

Scary. I hope these efforts are defeated.
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27 Sep 2010   #4

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

The problem I have is trusting those with the basic concept - how to balance security needs with protecting privacy.

It is a balancing act - and history has shown that not everyone handles it with skill, and grace. Abuse of power comes to mind.
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27 Sep 2010   #5

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Actually most other countries are LEADING us by example, they won't need to look to us to get any ideas...

We should be the last to ever implement this though. What next? Make usable encryption illegal again? (It used to be, remember?)

If I encrypt something OUTSIDE the space of facebook or skype then use that tool to transmit the data, what then? Instant terrorism suspect I would guess...
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27 Sep 2010   #6

Vista Business x64
 
 

This goes along with the thread about internet censorship, its all about our government having control. However, i do not have as big of a problem with this one because even if they do read our messages you are not gonna get in trouble unless you are actually breaking the law. This will make it more difficult for terrorists and criminals alike to communicate descretly.

Internet censorship in some cases could be good but also could be abused very easily. Soon as they take away something like free speech by blocking certain websites. The government's actions become criminal themselves.
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27 Sep 2010   #7

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bootz View Post
However, i do not have as big of a problem with this one because even if they do read our messages you are not gonna get in trouble unless you are actually breaking the law.
Except for the fact that the FBI rights and signs its own search warrants without the signature of a judge. The Gov't (FBI, Whitehouse) will tell you what is appropriate to them.
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27 Sep 2010   #8

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bootz View Post
However, i do not have as big of a problem with this one because even if they do read our messages you are not gonna get in trouble unless you are actually breaking the law.
Except for the fact that the FBI rights and signs its own search warrants without the signature of a judge. The Gov't (FBI, Whitehouse) will tell you what is appropriate to them.
Exactly. Between this and the other topic, people HAVE to see the pattern.
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27 Sep 2010   #9

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bootz View Post
However, i do not have as big of a problem with this one because even if they do read our messages you are not gonna get in trouble unless you are actually breaking the law. This will make it more difficult for terrorists and criminals alike to communicate descretly.
The problem is what is "actually" considered a crime in this area. We've all read and seen where innocent people get caught up in the net of "counter-terrorism"

Sorry but this comes to mind...

They came for the Communists,
and I didn't object - For I wasn't a Communist;
They came for the Socialists,
and I didn't object - For I wasn't a Socialist;
They came for the labor leaders,
and I didn't object - For I wasn't a labor leader;
They came for the Jews,
and I didn't object - For I wasn't a Jew;
Then they came for me -
And there was no one left to object.

- Martin Niemoller, German Protestant Pastor -

The point... if we accept bad behavior because it doesn't happen to us, then there will be no one left to object to your wrongful accusers.

I'm all about security and protection and remember the horrors of 911 as well as the many horrors of terrorism around the world, so yeah, we need measures to catch these people before things happen.

If this is to be done, I would hope it’s STRONGLY administered by the courts, and not just become a tool for a few overzealous governmental agencies to spy on its citizens for "security" reasons… wink wink.

It’s a fine balancing act, and well…
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27 Sep 2010   #10

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I think something like this wouldn't be too bad provided that (1) you have nothing to hide or (2) the government doesn't go mad with power. I'm not too worried about the government going mad though because of the separation of powers in the American government and the practice of judicial review by the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court justices declare this unconstitutional, then the government will be forced to either scrap the idea or ease restrictions on it so that freedom of speech is still protected.
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