| Windows 7: Windows Azure: The Cloud Is Inevitable |
17 Oct 2010
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#1 | | Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 Fruitland, Idaho |
Windows Azure: The Cloud Is Inevitable The 'Cloud" is nearer than some of us may think it is. It seems that Microsoft and Google are going to be pushing this style of computing onto the public. Here is an article that is worth reading if you are thinking about joining a "Cloud Computing" network.
I think that those who have been members here on the Sevens, know my thoughts on "Cloud Computing." It is just not my thing; putting something of mine (music, pictures, documents, etc) on someone else network just isn't going to happen. Albeit, it seems that there are those (Microsoft, Google, Apple, etc.) who feel this is truly the way of the future. Here is some more interesting stuff on Microsoft on the Cloud.
How do you here on the Sevens feel.
Last edited by Lee; 17 Oct 2010 at 06:47 PM..
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17 Oct 2010
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#2 | | Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit) Mumbai, India |
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#3 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1 |
The first link gives me an 404 error.
I agree with you too. My data is my data, it's not theirs-- Who knows who could be looking at it? Or could ask to look at it? (FBI, etc.)
Besides, the Internet is far from secure. With various traffic snooping going on and patchy encryption methods available, the picture isn't too nice looking. Plus having your data stored in a cloud OS would be one hell of a 'honey pot' for hackers to target and they would certainly target it. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Lee It is just not my thing; putting something of mine (music, pictures, documents, etc) on someone else network just isn't going to happen. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP DV6 1330sa OS Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1 CPU INTEL DUAL CORE 2.1Ghz Motherboard N/A Memory 4GB DDR3 Graphics Card INTEL Sound Card LAPTOP Monitor(s) Displays 2 Screen Resolution 3200x1080 Keyboard SOLID YEAR 260U Mouse USB PSU LAPTOP Case LAPTOP Cooling LAPTOP Hard Drives 250GB Internet Speed 20 MB/S |
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
If your cloud gets infected how does the cloud get uninfected. Who and how does the infection get removed? How does one secure the clouds. We all have selected the protection we want on our computers. How does one select what protection is use in a cloud? Security is my concern. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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17 Oct 2010
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#5 | | Windows 8 Pro 9200 x64 w/Media Center Austin, Texas |
I really feel that this is how M$ wants to control their operating system in the future. With an annual fee of course, your Windows operating system will reside in the cloud, and update itself automatically... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP a1250n, dv7 3173nr OS Windows 8 Pro 9200 x64 w/Media Center CPU AMD 3800+ X2 Motherboard MSI 7093 Memory 3GB Monitor(s) Displays Hitachi 22" CRT Samsung 24" sa550 Screen Resolution 1600x1200 1920x1080 Internet Speed 20Mb/s Other Info http://www.pixelmansion.com |
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#6 | | Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 Fruitland, Idaho |
The link to Softpedia as been repaired for those who want to read the article. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion a4302f OS Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 CPU AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 @ 3.0 Gbz Memory 12GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB, 2x2GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4350 HD Graphics/Audio with 512MB Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 1. Dell 23" SP2307, 2. Mitsublishi 40" HDTV, Hannspree 25" Screen Resolution 1. 2048x1152, 2. 1920-1080, 3. 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 2000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 Case Mid Tower Cooling Standard Fans - 5 fans (very quiet) Hard Drives Int: 1 120 Gig SSD i
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17 Oct 2010
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#7 | | Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 Fruitland, Idaho |

Quote: Originally Posted by DMHolt57 I really feel that this is how M$ wants to control their operating system in the future. With an annual fee of course, your Windows operating system will reside in the cloud, and update itself automatically...  It isn't just Microsoft that is getting into Cloud Computing. You need to read the article to see just what is happening and who is getting involved. This is the way companies like Google, Microsoft, Apple along with a cast of others are looking to go. So to specially say this is how Microsoft is trying to control the OS by moving to the Cloud is not reading and looking into what is going on in the world of computing.
Do a Google/Bing search for any one company such as say Apple, and you will see their stance on Cloud Computing. Almost all big tech companies are placing their bets on the Cloud. They see this as the wave of the future. So your statement is a little lame to say the least. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion a4302f OS Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 CPU AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 @ 3.0 Gbz Memory 12GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB, 2x2GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4350 HD Graphics/Audio with 512MB Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 1. Dell 23" SP2307, 2. Mitsublishi 40" HDTV, Hannspree 25" Screen Resolution 1. 2048x1152, 2. 1920-1080, 3. 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 2000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 Case Mid Tower Cooling Standard Fans - 5 fans (very quiet) Hard Drives Int: 1 120 Gig SSD i
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I posted this in another thread concerning cloud computing Quote: Absolute Cloud Computing should be a choice not a standard. The reason why I say Absolute is because cloud computing does exist in many ways: torrents, p2p, ftp, file storage sites, software updates, home/business networking, remote desktop operations, gaming and I'm sure I'm missing some others. So it is here and many of us use some or many elements of it.
There is one stipulation to the current mode of handling our data - we choose what and what not we want to share, access, store, place out into the internet. I have no complaints about placing photos on the internet to share with friends and family, but do not want to place important financial documents out there.
We also know that the evolution of Cloud computing would be remote desktop operations - what would happen if the server went down? How many users would be affected simultaneously?!? Rather than just my computer going down because of my own stupidity - it would be left in the hands of individuals and technology I know very little of.
Absolute Cloud Computing would also open the floodgates for data miners as well, not to mention the questionable locations your information is stored.
This also raises the questions of bandwidth availability and cost - This would definitely create user tiers in the internet and prices would undoubtedly jump due to increased demand.
maybe I'm off the mark, but it feels like a racket and an opportunity to endanger user privacy. How will ISP's help support this? Infrastructure would have to be there before this is implemented. Could this be somehow connected to Television OS improvement? Are they by any chance predicting or planning for television computing? You pay for the "Cable" tier you want which would include access to certain apps, storage, speed? What about having your choice of OS? Would there be an access OS to the Cloud OS? How about Cross-OS applications? How about redundancy in case of system/transmission failure? If a point of access is compromised who will be held responsible?
Will this diminish competition and diversity and create a homogenized computing environment? | My System Specs | | |
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I think personally this is a good thing, why? With the "cloud" I am able to access my files, folders, and my OS (maybe) from any device! I already can access that power point from online and view it in the browser. (Office Web Apps) I can already store files online (Windows Skydrive) These applications are already here, it is just a matter of time of when they will combine this into one application.
And like Lee said, it is not just Microsoft, Google is another big company pushing for the cloud (Chrome OS) and Google Docs have already made a big ripple in the cloud industry...it will only get more interesting from here!
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17 Oct 2010
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#10 | | Win7U 64 RTM Ellesmere Island |
I vote no (as if that matters...). Security & privacy seem to be insurmountable issues in this scenario, and I would think the liability factor for those 'running' the cloud would be high. Security compromised, identity stolen, bilked of funds? Who else should be held liable but those in charge of the given Cloud? But apparently, liability is not enough to deter.
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