Windows 7 to be shipped in Europe sans IE

Page 14 of 23 FirstFirst ... 41213141516 ... LastLast

  1. Posts : 5,807
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
       #130

    Night Hawk said:
    I think we all get the drift on that when simply looking at how long this has been going on to start with. The plight against MS could also apply to other softwares as well as other OSs when you stop and think that some of the more popular programs will have and note the "will have" a few more features then the next.

    Does that mean one software company that sells a dvd burning program with a few additional features is next in line? "Gee? if you include the photo snap option in ... blah blah blah we will fine the living daylights out of you!" bunk from EU!

    The best description probably goes as "software dictatorship"! The big fuss is over one company and "their own" operating system that "just happens to be" note widely used being the target for all this. You don't the EU screaming at the ubuntu people for including FireFox or the Knoppix people for including the Konqueror and Ice browsers now do you?

    "Well that's iopen source!" No the EU just can't make money through fines from the open source people! But behind closed doors in the EU a subtle whisper goes: "and yes with all the money MS has we can dip our hands into the till... by fines and other..."
    I agree whole heartedly...The fact that Microsoft has deep pockets is why this is continued so far. The EU only hurts their people through this money making agenda of theirs. If it really was because "they violated their rules" than where is the ****ing lawsuit against Apple or anyone else who bundles apps with their software? Till I see one...**** off EU.

    PS I am not a MSFT fanboy...but really this whole battle going on because of a damn browser being included is ridiculous
      My Computer


  2. Posts : 5,807
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
       #131

    petrossa said:
    No luck there mate. We've just had elections and center/right won overwhelmingly.
    Kroes belongs to the liberal corner, so......
    unbelievable...they must do other things correctly or the alternative choices weren't that great. Was the election public?
      My Computer


  3. Posts : 8,375
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
       #132

    Even with IE included in Windows one question still comes up! What do you see when going to install yes easily install another browser on Windows?

    The answer to that one as well as when first opening up WMP is quite simple. "Do you want ? to be the default ? browser?, media player?"! If you install that media player with a big "I" in front of the T for unes that will also ask if you want that to be the default player.

    So I guess the question is where has MS monopolized Windows by simply including IE when you can simply right click on the IE icon to send that on it's way and run any other Windows compatible browser by choice? Simply because it's there?
      My Computers


  4. Posts : 51,381
    Windows 11 Workstation x64
       #133

    Zidane2424 said:
    I hope that if any reelection occurs than it ends with the door hitting you in the ass on the way out
    The problem with that is that the EU is a bureaucratic dictatorship with only a puppet Parliament to give it the look of democracy.
      My Computers


  5. Posts : 623
    vista x64/ win 7 x64
       #134

    Zidane2424 said:
    I agree whole heartedly...The fact that Microsoft has deep pockets is why this is continued so far. The EU only hurts their people through this money making agenda of theirs. If it really was because "they violated their rules" than where is the ****ing lawsuit against Apple or anyone else who bundles apps with their software? Till I see one...**** off EU.

    PS I am not a MSFT fanboy...but really this whole battle going on because of a damn browser being included is ridiculous
    I don't know how often i have to post this:

    MS has been determined to be a monopolist. They fought it in court and lost. So to all intents and purposes they are by EU rules a monopolist.

    As soon as Apple or anyone else becomes a monopolist and decides to use it's position to leverage it's own products will be treated likewise.

    a) The fines levied are redistributed over the memberstates per ratio of their contribution.
    b) The courtcases have to be paid out of the regular EU budget
    c) Currently the EU budget hovers around 1% of the total BNP of the memberstates, so it is about 113.000.000.000 euro.
    d) presently the EU has around 500.000.000 inhabitants against 300.000.000 in the US making the EU a very important market indeed.
      My Computer


  6. Posts : 623
    vista x64/ win 7 x64
       #135

    Zidane2424 said:
    unbelievable...they must do other things correctly or the alternative choices weren't that great. Was the election public?
    Yes, very. Even far right got more seats, left lost a lot.
      My Computer


  7. Posts : 623
    vista x64/ win 7 x64
       #136

    Night Hawk said:

    So I guess the question is where has MS monopolized Windows by simply including IE when you can simply right click on the IE icon to send that on it's way and run any other Windows compatible browser by choice? Simply because it's there?
    No it's not a question anymore. The courts have ruled that the EU was right in deciding MS is a monopolist.

    So thats a fact of life MS has to live with or as others suggested take it's business elsewhere.

    But if i was shareholder i would kick out the Board immediately if they where to just throw a major part of their revenues away.

    How things will turn out in the end, we'll see. The EU has no timelimit on when to impose their decision, but when it is it will be retroactive.

    I'd seriously tone down if i were MS
      My Computer


  8. Posts : 623
    vista x64/ win 7 x64
       #137

    z3r010 said:
    The problem with that is that the EU is a bureaucratic dictatorship with only a puppet Parliament to give it the look of democracy.
    Yep, truer words were never said. But, they are there. I voted NO on the EU constitution as did the majority of French,Dutch,Irish.

    Still it's implemented in stages which are not put up for vote by the member states.

    But as the saying goes, if you're being shaved better sit still
      My Computer


  9. Posts : 51,381
    Windows 11 Workstation x64
       #138

    At least you got a vote
      My Computers


  10. Posts : 8,375
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
       #139

    I guess some people don't take that into account. Not everyplace had/has that option and will suffer through all this. But the EU fails to take into account the time when Windows lacked a browser any browser before all this originally came up. Simply go back before the 9x family to see that.
      My Computers


 
Page 14 of 23 FirstFirst ... 41213141516 ... LastLast

  Related Discussions
Our Sites
Site Links
About Us
Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:09.
Find Us