| Windows 7: Intel and AMD sign death warrant for VGA port |
12 Dec 2010
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#1 | | Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 Fruitland, Idaho |
Intel and AMD sign death warrant for VGA port Read the following on ARS: Intel and AMD sign death warrant for VGA port
By Jon Stokes | Last updated 2 days ago
Rival processor makers Intel and AMD may not agree on much, but they are of one mind about the future of the venerable VGA graphics port: it doesn't have one. The two chipmakers are joined by Dell, Lenovo, Samsung, and LG in an industry-spanning agreement to phase out VGA entirely by 2015, and to standardize solely on HDMI and DisplayPort.
"DisplayPort and HDMI allow for slimmer laptop designs, and support higher resolutions with deeper color than VGA—a technology which is more than 20 years old," the companies wrote in a joint press release. "Additionally, as laptops get smaller and their embedded flat panel resolutions increase for more immersive experiences, the power advantages, bidirectional communications and design efficiency benefits of DisplayPort make it a superior choice over LVDS, the previous standard for LCD panel inputs."
LVDS will be gone from Intel's products by 2013, with VGA following in 2015. AMD is following a similar timetable in phasing out the two technologies.
"Newer standards such as DisplayPort and HDMI clearly provide the best connectivity options moving forward," said AMD's Eric Demers. "In our opinion, DisplayPort 1.2 is the future interface for PC monitors, along with HDMI 1.4a for TV connectivity."
Part of the impetus for the depreciation of VGA is the ongoing push for 3D displays in both TV and PC markets. On the TV front, the 3D panels require the latest HDMI spec, with its support for more bandwidth. And in PCs, GPU makers and monitor makers would both like to see gamers don shutter glasses and make the jump to true 3D gaming. Indeed, even in the handheld space, parallax barrier technology will bring 3D (sans glasses) to the smallest displays this coming year.
Of course, whether consumers care as much about 3D as device makers do is an open question. Sales of 3D panels have been disappointing so far, and all the major 3D TV makers are bracing for a lackluster holiday season. But if the public does decide to take the 3D plunge at some point, at least they won't have a legacy graphics port holding them back.
Been wondering how much longer the VGA port would last. | My System Specs |
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12 Dec 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
Can't say as I'll miss it. Kind of sounds like DVI might be on the hit list too. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 |
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric Can't say as I'll miss it. Kind of sounds like DVI might be on the hit list too. Can't say I'll miss it either. But why take away DVI? That could be the new standard along side HDMI | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion pc6000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Intel Core Processor 2 Quad Processor Q9400 Series Memory 2 GIG Graphics Card NVIDIA Geforce GT230 3D Sound Card Integrated Intel HIgh Definition Audio 5.1 Surround Sound Monitor(s) Displays 20 Inch 2009F 16:9 HP LCD Monitor Keyboard HP USB Keyboard Mouse HP USB Mouse Hard Drives Primary 320GIG
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 Cambridge, UK |
So what about those of us who can't view 3D, those that don't have proper depth perception?
I really hope they do think of the little people, other wise that will hurt sales.
And on sales of 3D panels, if the makers of these panels looked at the bigger picture, there are quite a few countries woth money issues, the UK being one, at the moment (Don't hold me to this as these are guesstimates) a 3D panel would set you back £600 to probably £2000. Now how many britons ould be able to aford these, especially with next years 20% VAT hike.
These companies really need to do some more global makerting strategies.
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 Cambridge, UK |

Quote: Originally Posted by darkdisturbed 
Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric Can't say as I'll miss it. Kind of sounds like DVI might be on the hit list too. Can't say I'll miss it either. But why take away DVI? That could be the new standard along side HDMI
I can't quite remember where but i read a blog the other day and it seems that Display port is actually better than DVI.
I was reading about 120mhz Monitors at high res and it was saying that DVI just cannot re-produce the signal the graphics card is sending fast enough, even over dual-DVI.
I will try and find it today and post back.
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |
Looking at 3d tv all the time is bad for you're eyes | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines Looking at 3d tv all the time is bad for you're eyes  3D capable - not 3D permanent.
3D screens do 2D as well. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Inc OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, San Diego |
The problem is that, as they phase out the VGA and DVI ports which most monitors today are still using, when we upgrade our PC's and laptop's we won't be able to plug our older monitors into the new machines forcing us to upgrade a still perfectly good monitor with one that has HDMI or a DisplayPort.
It's good to move forward with technology but there is always some fallout that ends up costing us all more money.
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64 Wanderer |
Nice information Lee, looks like most people will need to stay away from the VGA only monitors that will be on sale. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number 76~2.0 OS Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64 CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 4.6GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X UD3H, f18 Memory 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance CL8 1.5v Graphics Card Sapphire HD 7770 Vapor-X OC 1GB DDR5 Sound Card Onboard VIA VT2021 Monitor(s) Displays 22" LCD Dell Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse CM Sentinel PSU Corsair HX650W Case Cooler Master Storm Scout Cooling Corsair H80 2x12cm Noctua NF P12 , 2x14cm case fans Hard Drives Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD,
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Norfolk, VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by Dave76 Nice information Lee, looks like most people will need to stay away from the VGA only monitors that will be on sale. you can still use DP to VGA adapters to drive a VGA only monitor. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HAL-9000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel i7 3770K Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card XFX HD6950 2GB EyeFinity Sound Card Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD Monitor(s) Displays 23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic Screen Resolution 5760x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 and G13 Mouse Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse PSU Antec True Power New 650watt Case Cooler Master HAF-932 Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan Hard Drives 16TB of Storage
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