| Windows 7: The Sandy Bridge Review: The New Intel CPUs |
03 Jan 2011
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#21 | | |
I'll be picking up a 2500K as soon as they become available on Newegg/Amazon.
BTW, I'm 99% sure that's not the stock heatsink/fan included with these new CPUs.
EDIT: Here: | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i5-2500K Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Memory 8GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW Sound Card ASUS Xonar DS Monitor(s) Displays SAMSUNG P2070 Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech K300 Black Mouse Genius on Steelseries 4HD Gaming pad PSU Corsair TX950W Case Corsair Obsidian 650D Cooling Thermaltake Frío Hard Drives WD Caviar Blue Other Info Headphones: Sennheiser HD-515 System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i5-2500K Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Memory 8GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW Sound Card ASUS Xonar DS Monitor(s) Displays SAMSUNG P2070 Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech K300 Black Mouse Genius on Steelseries 4HD Gaming pad PSU Corsair TX950W Case Corsair Obsidian 650D Cooling Thermaltake Frío Hard Drives WD Caviar Blue Other Info Headphones: Sennheiser HD-515 |
05 Jan 2011
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#23 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
There is a good set of reviews of several Sandy Bridge processors, with benchmarks, and comparisons to other Intel and AMD processors here: Intel Sandy Bridge Review | bit-tech.net
I was interested in power consumption. Here are the results for various processors at standard clocks and overclocked, at idle and at load.
The hardware used was:
* ATI Radeon HD 5870 graphics card (Catalyst 10.11 WHQL)
* 2TB Western Digital Caviar Black hard disk
* PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W PSU
* Asus P8P67 Intel LGA1155 motherboard
* Asus P6TD Deluxe Intel LGA1366 motherboard
* Asus Crosshair IV Formula AMD Socket AM3 motherboard
* Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H Intel LGA1156 motherboard
* 4/6GB (3 x 2GB) Corsair 1,600MHz DDR3 memory (CL9)
* Titan Fenrir TTC-NK85TZ CPU cooler, except for LGA1155 systems where we use a Corsair H50 due to the incompatibility between the Fenrir and Asus P8P67 motherboard
234 watts at full load for the most expensive model (i7-2600 K) at max overclock (4.85 GHz), with a Radeon 5870. The same system at the same overclock at idle uses 81 watts.
Without the overclock (3.4 GHz) on the same system: 156 watts at load; 77 watts at idle
The less expensive i5-2400 at max overclock (3.99 GHz): 154 watts at load; 77 watts at idle
The i5-2400, without overclocking (3.1 GHz): 142 watts at load, 75 watts at idle.
Looks like a 350 or 400 watt power supply is easily enough with a single 5870 graphics card, even overclocked. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
05 Jan 2011
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#24 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic 
Quote: Originally Posted by pebbly
The price is very good , but I think the inbuilt DRM will put a few people off  Does anyone have a decent understanding as to how intrusive the DRM is going to be? What won't I be able to do?
I've heard complaints about DRM for the last 4 or 5 years and it hasn't affected me yet.
Didn't I read that certain upper end models of Sandy Bridge will not have the DRM component? From my understanding it'll be movie content, but whatever I can't see it being too much of an issue as Intel wouldn’t want to throttle the chip with a DRM scheme so intrusive that it puts users off from purchasing them. Talk about a step in the wrong direction for a new product launch
As for upper end chips not having DRM, that doesn't sound right nor makes sense. Why would you DRM lower end chips, but not DRM top ones? And what would you be telling content providers? Sorry, you didn't pay us enough to stop piracy at the top end
Anyways I'm interested in seeing what they have in store to the replacement for the i7-900 series chips on the 1366 sockets. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB) & 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
05 Jan 2011
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#25 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Colne, Lancashire, UK |
I tend to melacholia. I'm thinking they're gonna dump the 1366 socket. Anybody hear any different? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The Monolith. 3.1 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU i7 2700K@4.5GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-D3H Memory 2x4GB Corsair Vegeance DDR3 Graphics Card XFX GTX 260 Black Edition Sound Card none-through large stereo hi fi Monitor(s) Displays Croosover 27MDP LED IPS Dell 2408 WFP Screen Resolution 2560x1440 1920x1200 Keyboard Enermax Aurora Mouse Logitech Ballmouse PSU Corsair AX 850 Watt Case Cooler Master ACTS 840 Cooling Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro Hard Drives 1x Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD
1x Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB Internet Speed 20MBPS |
05 Jan 2011
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#26 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
JohnWillyums:
I think 1366 will be around at least through the year. New CPUs for that socket are due out in the third and fourth quarter. Nothing new on that socket till then, I guess.
Microcenter has some amazing prices on the Sandy Bridge 1155 socket CPUs beginning this Sunday. Naturally, there's no Microcenter within a 1000 miles of where I live and you can't get the great price online.
Sygnus:
I think you are right about the movie thing.
See here: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE7020FG20110103
And see the pic below. From what I have read this is just "PAVP", which has been around on Intel chips for a while now. It is AKA "content protection" in the marketing documents for Sandy Bridge.
Here is what Wikipedia says about PAVP:
PAVP - Protect Audio Video Path (Intel Corporation)
PAVP protects the data path within a computer during video playback (e.g. Blu-ray discs). It is supported by newer chipsets (e.g. INTEL G45) and operating systems (since Windows Vista). PAVP does the video decoding in the chipset to reduce processor load.
PAVP can be configured in the BIOS. Different modes are supported:
1. Disabled
2. PAVP Lite: Reserves buffer memory for encryption of compressed video data
3. Paranoid PAVP: Reserve memory during boot which isn't seen by the Operating System. This disables Aero in Vista.
I was confused about high end chips not having it. The truth is that it is not implemented in the high end chipset. See the "content protection" row below.
The P67 chipset shows "NA". That is because the P67, which is targeted at enthusiasts, does NOT support the built-in on-processor graphics. If you have that chipset, you MUST use a discrete video card. And as I understand it from looking at that row in the table, if you use a discrete video card, you are untouched by PAVP.
But mebbe I misunderstand?
There is a lot of bitching online about those who spring for the high end chipset will not be able to use onboard graphics. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
05 Jan 2011
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#27 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic Sygnus:
I think you are right about the movie thing.
See here: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE7020FG20110103
And see the pic below. From what I have read this is just "PAVP", which has been around on Intel chips for a while now. It is AKA "content protection" in the marketing documents for Sandy Bridge.
Here is what Wikipedia says about PAVP:
PAVP - Protect Audio Video Path (Intel Corporation)
PAVP protects the data path within a computer during video playback (e.g. Blu-ray discs). It is supported by newer chipsets (e.g. INTEL G45) and operating systems (since Windows Vista). PAVP does the video decoding in the chipset to reduce processor load. Thanks. Yeah I thougt it had something to do with movie content. 
Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic Microcenter has some amazing prices on the Sandy Bridge 1155 socket CPUs beginning this Sunday. Naturally, there's no Microcenter within a 1000 miles of where I live and you can't get the great price online. Hehe.... I just got a i7-950 from them for $229. So I won't be upgrading for awhile. even when the new chips for the 1366 or it's replacement are released. 
Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic I was confused about high end chips not having it. The truth is that it is not implemented in the high end chipset. See the "content protection" row below.
The P67 chipset shows "NA". That is because the P67, which is targeted at enthusiasts, does NOT support the built-in on-processor graphics. If you have that chipset, you MUST use a discrete video card. And as I understand it from looking at that row in the table, if you use a discrete video card, you are untouched by PAVP.
But mebbe I misunderstand? Yeah that makes perfect sense to me, especially if the high end chips don't contain graphic processors.
Last edited by sygnus21; 05 Jan 2011 at 05:13 PM..
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB) & 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
05 Jan 2011
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#28 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Colne, Lancashire, UK |
Thanks ignatz  I can't see intel supporting 4 sockets for long though. Thought I'd be future proof with an i7/x58 but I doubt it.
As was, the i7 900 series were supposedly top of the tree but Sandybridge throws that out of the window. Unless they make a super Sandybridge with just one extra pin. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The Monolith. 3.1 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU i7 2700K@4.5GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-D3H Memory 2x4GB Corsair Vegeance DDR3 Graphics Card XFX GTX 260 Black Edition Sound Card none-through large stereo hi fi Monitor(s) Displays Croosover 27MDP LED IPS Dell 2408 WFP Screen Resolution 2560x1440 1920x1200 Keyboard Enermax Aurora Mouse Logitech Ballmouse PSU Corsair AX 850 Watt Case Cooler Master ACTS 840 Cooling Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro Hard Drives 1x Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD
1x Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB Internet Speed 20MBPS |
05 Jan 2011
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#29 | | |
To be fair, I have this same setup on a couple of different boxes, and a few have light overclocks and that cooler does the job just fine. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
05 Jan 2011
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#30 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 To be fair, I have this same setup on a couple of different boxes, and a few have light overclocks and that cooler does the job just fine.
True, but 99.9 percent of overclockers disapprove | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB) & 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts The Sandy Bridge Review: The New Intel CPUs problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:58 PM. | |