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Windows 7 - Ribbon Explorer |
04-04-2011
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#1 | | Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate |
Ribbon Explorer | My System Specs | | OS Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate |
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Outside of that section with the folder names above "Move to folder," what is wrong with it? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron 1520 (Laptop)/ Home (Desktop) OS Windows 7 x64 / Same CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 / Intel Core i7 930 Motherboard Intel 945 / Asus P6X58D-E Memory 4GB / 6GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS / ASUS 1GB Sound Card Whatever Dell gave me :-( / Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.4" LCD / Crappy CRT Mouse Microsoft Presenter (Bluetooth) PSU N/A / OCZ Fatal1ty 550W Modular Case N/A / Antec 900 Cooling Air Hard Drives Seagate 500GB SATA; 7200 RPM / Seagate 1TB SATA; 7200 RPM |
04-04-2011
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#3 | | 32bit: XP, Win7 H.P. / 64bit: 2008R2, Win7 Pro, Ultimate / Several flavors of Linux |

Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Connor They are going to kill it completely!  If you mean "kill the ribbon" then I say "What are they waiting for?"
Put the darn thing out of my misery.
Regards,
GEWB | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number (5 different computers booting up to 12 systems) OS 32bit: XP, Win7 H.P. / 64bit: 2008R2, Win7 Pro, Ultimate / Several flavors of Linux |
04-04-2011
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#4 | | Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate |

Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 Outside of that section with the folder names above "Move to folder," what is wrong with it? There is nothing wrong with it per se, but a massive number of users wont accept it. There are already very large numbers of users who wont use various products with ribbon menus. I know quite a few.
Various arguments that users must "move on" or "learn new things", simply wont wash. Software should do what a user wants and not what some firm, or indeed anybody else, thinks he should be doing.
If Ford made a car that only drove backwards at thirty miles an hour, and with completely different controls to the one you have, which you were unable to get used to, but designed and (almost) guaranteed to be completely accident free, would you buy it?
Regards....Mike Connor | My System Specs | | OS Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Connor 
Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 Outside of that section with the folder names above "Move to folder," what is wrong with it? There is nothing wrong with it per se, but a massive number of users wont accept it. There are already very large numbers of users who wont use various products with ribbon menus. I know quite a few.
Various arguments that users must "move on" or "learn new things", simply wont wash. Software should do what a user wants and not what some firm, or indeed anybody else, thinks he should be doing.
If Ford made a car that only drove backwards at thirty miles an hour, and with completely different controls to the one you have, which you were unable to get used to, but designed and (almost) guaranteed to be completely accident free, would you buy it?
Regards....Mike Connor I don't have an opinion about it at this point.
I was merely asking for more details about yours, since they were scarce to begin with. That's all. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron 1520 (Laptop)/ Home (Desktop) OS Windows 7 x64 / Same CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 / Intel Core i7 930 Motherboard Intel 945 / Asus P6X58D-E Memory 4GB / 6GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS / ASUS 1GB Sound Card Whatever Dell gave me :-( / Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.4" LCD / Crappy CRT Mouse Microsoft Presenter (Bluetooth) PSU N/A / OCZ Fatal1ty 550W Modular Case N/A / Antec 900 Cooling Air Hard Drives Seagate 500GB SATA; 7200 RPM / Seagate 1TB SATA; 7200 RPM |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Connor ...Software should do what a user wants and not what some firm, or indeed anybody else, thinks he should be doing.... There are millions upon millions of users of Windows, doing everything, every single user wants is impossible. Catering to the larger user base is what any firm will do. Lets face it the larger user base like the Ribbon.
But really until we have a product to look at, it is all speculation. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron e1705 OS Windows 7 (7600) x86 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 (2 GHz) Motherboard Unknown Dell MB Memory 2 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon x1400 (128 MB Dedicated) Sound Card SigmaTel HD Audio; Turtle Beach Audio Advantage SRM Monitor(s) Displays Laptop 17" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
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Actually your car anaolgy fails. Cars in fact do this ALL the time. Whitness the push button starter and the "climate control system" which are both pretty much disasters of user control over their vehicle.
But anyway, You can of course always replace explorer with any number of third party shells for those that truly want some real customizability. Personally, It takes up too much space for me. As long as there is a show hide button (and it looks like there may be at the top there), it shouldn't be a problem at all really. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Scratch built OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU i7 960 Motherboard Asus P6X58D Memory 12 Gig Corsair Dominator Graphics Card Nvidia 480 Sound Card Maudio Delta 44 + breakout box Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U2410 24in and Samsung 21 dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1200 and 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech G15 + N52 game pad Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corasair TX850 Case Cooler Master HAF Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Primary: Intel X-25M G2 160G SSD
Secondary: Segate baracuda 1.0 TB
HDs in AHCI mode. Internet Speed 15kbs down 4.5kbps up Other Info WEI 7.6
CPU & RAM 7.6
Graphics 7.9
Hard disk 7.7 |
04-04-2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64, Mac OS X 10.6.2 x64 |
They better at least get some better icons cause the orange cirlces = ugly.
As for the ribbon itself, I really hope theres an option to disable it by default because I wont want to download 3rd party that I know will come out to get the old style back. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite L505D-S9565 OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64, Mac OS X 10.6.2 x64 CPU AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 2.1 GHz Motherboard Toshiba Built-In with Insyde H20 BIOS 1.40 Memory 4 GB DDR2 800 MHz Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD Mobility 3100 Graphics 256MB to 1468 MB Shared Sound Card Realtek Mobile ALC272 HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" TFT LCD with TruBrite, Samsung 1080p HDTV Screen Resolution 1366x768, 1920x1080 Keyboard Built-in Mouse Build-in Symantics SmartTouch Pad PSU N/A Case N/A Cooling Built-in/Open window in winter :P Hard Drives ❶:Main: Toshiba 250 GB SATA 5400 RPM Internet Speed 55 MB/sec Down, 9 MB/sec Up Other Info ❷:Backup: Seagate FreeAgent Desk USB 2.0 5400 RPM
❸:Media: Toshiba 640 GB USB 2.0 5400 RPM Portable Edition |
04-04-2011
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#9 | | Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate |

Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 [
I don't have an opinion about it at this point.
I was merely asking for more details about yours, since they were scarce to begin with. That's all. Well, I only have scarce details on the matter itself. My opinion on ribbon menus is that I don't like them, and I don't like the trouble they cause me when some user complains and demands I get the "rubbish" removed and his system working how he wants it to again.
I also don't see the point in Microsoft annoying large portions of its user base by adding "functionality" that only annoys and confuses them.
Otherwise I'm more or less neutral...........
Regards....Mike Connor | My System Specs | | OS Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate |
04-04-2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Connor 
Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 Outside of that section with the folder names above "Move to folder," what is wrong with it? There is nothing wrong with it per se, but a massive number of users wont accept it. There are already very large numbers of users who wont use various products with ribbon menus. I know quite a few. Indeed I am one of them. Do Not Want. I really do not see what developers have against "File Edit" etc, that they feel the need to hide them away. Are they really that offensive? I find their presence to be reassuring, I know where everything is, and I don't have to learn a complete new UI on a developers whim.
Even Firefox, who for years had my business for the major reason that they used an Old School GUI, with Firefox 4 have succumbed to pressure and hidden those nasty offensive little words away. At least it can be turned off though. (Yes I know it can probably be turned off in other apps too, but frankly I would rather not have to)
Having said all that, in the interests of fairness, I should say that the name "Ribbon" conjures up for me images of the horrible Office (2000? I think it was) interface, when the ribbon was new, and was a complete and utter mess when your used to doing it the old way. Wheras the Ribbon in the screenshots provided, don't look that bad. It seems to me that they have just moved the sidebar up top. It's not really "cutting into screen real estate" as it is redistributing it.
I shall reserve judgement for now, it may not even happen, but I wish they picked another name for it. the word "Ribbon" still gives me nightmares | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz Motherboard Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz Memory 8GB 1333Mhz DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Realtek Monitor(s) Displays Acer Al1980, Screen Resolution 1360*768 Keyboard Alba USB Mouse IT Works Wireless USB PSU 750W Novatech Case Novatech ATX Case Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Hard Drives 500GB SATA WBC
1TB WD Caviar Green
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