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07-11-2009
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Windows 7 RC To Final Upgrade Possible According to Martin over at ghacks, users running pre-RTM versions of Windows 7 can buy an upgrade edition when it goes retail! There are some caveats though... Quote: I’m pretty excited about the upcoming launch of Windows 7, Microsoft’s next operating system. Not only because I’m running a very successful Windows 7 blog but also because I finally have the opportunity to install and use a new computer operating system. Windows 7 has seen lots of praise since its first announcement and it is very likely that it will be a good – if not great – operating system that combines the best of Windows Vista and Windows XP.
Many users are already running a beta or release candidate build of Windows 7. Some even on their main computer system as Windows 7 has proven to be very stable and reliable. These users might be interested in the following news. Microsoft is offering Windows 7 Upgrades to give users running specific Windows XP or Windows Vista operating systems the opportunity to upgrade. Windows XP users will have to do a clean install but can purchase the Windows 7 Upgrade editions which are cheaper than the full retail editions.
Microsoft recently confirmed that it is also possible to upgrade a pre-RTM version of Windows 7 with a Windows 7 Upgrade edition. This means that users who are already running Windows 7 RC (or another build) can buy a Windows 7 Upgrade edition and get a full installation of Windows 7 this way.
There are some limitations on the other hand. No data will be taken over. The installation will move the old data into the folder windows.old from where the files are accessible. Most programs on the other hand will not work unless they are portable.
It also has to be noted that a clean install at a later time requires a Windows XP or Windows Vista installation (or a new installation of a pre-RTM build of Windows 7). Windows 7 RC To Final Upgrade Possible | My System Specs | | OS 7600 x86 CPU Core 2 Duo e7200, 2.53 ghz Motherboard Micro-Star MS-7529 Memory 2x DDR2 PC5300 1gb, 667 mhz Graphics Card GeForce 9500gt, 512mb Monitor(s) Displays 22" LG Flatron w2234s Screen Resolution 1680x1050 PSU CoolerMaster M520 Hard Drives Excelstor SATA-II 250gb 7200rpm, 8mb cache Internet Speed 30/20 mbits |
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yup, I'm running 7264. But when I buy it I'll be doing a clean install.
Last edited by bi0h4z4rd; 07-11-2009 at 08:41 AM..
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Clean install here, using the old Vista double install method, or just putting in a Vista disk to show I have a previous version.. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HOME BUILT OS Windows 7 RTM 64-bit CPU AMD 6000 DUAL CORE Motherboard MSI K9A2 CF Memory 4 MB Graphics Card BFG 9800 GTX 512 Monitor(s) Displays ACER 24 INCH Screen Resolution 1920X1280 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 3000 ver. 2 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Laser 8000 Bluetooth PSU ANTEC 650 Case ANTEC GAMER 900 Hard Drives 2-WD CAVIER BLACK 500gb 32 Bit Buffer
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07-11-2009
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#4 | | Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04 |
This article is confusing, is it saying that license wise you can install a Windows 7 upgrade and it will recognize your old Windows 7 installation and be content with it? Or would someone have to reinstall Windows 7 pre RTM and then do the upgrade thing and it will be content and let license wise. If it isn't saying that, then the article makes no sense.. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number fakeasdf (c) OS Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04 CPU 2 x C2D E8600@3.33 Ghz, C2D T8300@2.4 ghz, P4 @ 3.0 ghz, Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3P LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Dynamic Energy S Memory 2x8 GB Corsair, 4GB Kingston, 2GB GSkill Graphics Card ATI Radeon 4670 1 GB DDR3, 2600 Pro, 2400 Pro, Intel 965 Sound Card I don't care... Connected using Optical on Media Center Monitor(s) Displays Panasonic Viera 50" Plasma, 2x 19" Screen Resolution 1080P, 1280x1024's Case Antec P182 Gun Metal Black Hard Drives 4 Terabytes Internet Speed 20 Mbit U/D |
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Quote: Originally Posted by garbanzo According to Martin over at ghacks, users running pre-RTM versions of Windows 7 can buy an upgrade edition when it goes retail! There are some caveats though... Windows 7 RC To Final Upgrade Possible Very nice, worth giving this a try. Still windows old file just kinda taints the clean install for me. mmm so many choices guess I just need to roll the dice and see what comes up! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway GT5692 OS Windows 7 Ulti. x64 CPU AMD Phenom 8450 triple-core 2.10 ghz Memory 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radion HD 3200 Monitor(s) Displays Gateway FPD1775W Screen Resolution 1280x720 Hard Drives 465.6613 Gibibytes |
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i tracked links back to this article which clears things up a bit. basically, an Upgrade disk will work on any activated Windows installation, even an activated Windows 7 RC install, but it will do a Custom install, not an Upgrade install (which explains the Windows.old bit). of course, i don't think RC1 can be activated after the March cutoff next year, so i'm not really sure what's going on here... Quote: On Monday, Microsoft is expected to announce that it's done with Windows 7, and the code will be dispatched to manufacturers of PCs and the factories that will burn it onto retail DVDs.
On Oct. 22, you'll be able to buy the fruits of Microsoft's more than three years of labor. But many of you are already running an unfinished version of Windows 7 - the release candidate that was made available for download in May.
Chances are, you're running it on a computer that previously had another version of Windows. As Oct. 22 approaches, I bet you've been wondering: If I buy the cheaper, upgrade version of Windows 7, am I going to have to reinstall my old operating system before I install this one?
So far, there's been no clear guidance on this from Microsoft - until now. I've been asking a spokesman for the company about this for about a month, and he's finally been able to offer an answer.
It's an interesting one.
If you are running the Windows 7 Release Candidate, and you have activated it, you will not need to reinstall an older version of Windows before using an Windows 7 upgrade disk.
However, you will not be able to do an upgrade installation, in which your existing programs and data are left in place. Instead, you'll have to do what Microsoft calls a custom installation. This is essentially a clean install, but your existing operating system, programs and data are squirreled away in a folder labeled WINDOWS.OLD. You end up with a fresh Windows 7 setup, but you can access that folder to get to any needed data. (Sorry, the programs in there won't work - you'll need to reinstall them.)
That's good news for folks who worried they'd have to do two operating system installations to get the final version of Windows 7 on their PCs.
But there's a catch. If for some reason you later need to reinstall the finished version of Windows 7 from scratch using the upgrade copy you bought, you'll first need to install and activate Windows XP or Vista.
This is different from Windows Vista's installation procedure. Vista would let you install an older Windows OS, skip activation, and then install with an upgrade version. You can no longer skip activation when installing Windows 7 via an upgrade disk.
In other words, it's all about activation. The Windows 7 upgrade disk will need to see a valid activation - and that can include an activated copy of the release candidate - before it will install the operating system.
This should make life somewhat easier for those running the Windows 7 Release Candidate - so long as they don't have to do a reinstall later. A major Windows 7 upgrade question gets an answer | TechBlog | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle | My System Specs | | OS 7600 x86 CPU Core 2 Duo e7200, 2.53 ghz Motherboard Micro-Star MS-7529 Memory 2x DDR2 PC5300 1gb, 667 mhz Graphics Card GeForce 9500gt, 512mb Monitor(s) Displays 22" LG Flatron w2234s Screen Resolution 1680x1050 PSU CoolerMaster M520 Hard Drives Excelstor SATA-II 250gb 7200rpm, 8mb cache Internet Speed 30/20 mbits |
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Spose we will only know what works after the release. I do know I have pre-ordered a upgrade. I do know that I prefer a clean install. I do know that I would like to keep dual booting with Vista as I am now(need Vista for trouble shooting purposes). I do not want to invalidate my Vista License. I do want a valid Windows 7 insulation. mmm | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway GT5692 OS Windows 7 Ulti. x64 CPU AMD Phenom 8450 triple-core 2.10 ghz Memory 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radion HD 3200 Monitor(s) Displays Gateway FPD1775W Screen Resolution 1280x720 Hard Drives 465.6613 Gibibytes |
07-11-2009
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#8 | | Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04 |

Quote: Originally Posted by garbanzo i tracked links back to this article which clears things up a bit. basically, an Upgrade disk will work on any activated Windows installation, even an activated Windows 7 RC install, but it will do a Custom install, not an Upgrade install (which explains the Windows.old bit). of course, i don't think RC1 can be activated after the March cutoff next year, so i'm not really sure what's going on here... A major Windows 7 upgrade question gets an answer | TechBlog | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle
If that's correct then everyone can buy Windows 7 upgrade and just download and install the RC first activate it, and then do a custom install of the Windows 7 upgrade. So... Today is the last day people buy the upgrade even if you don't have xp or Vista discs etc... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number fakeasdf (c) OS Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04 CPU 2 x C2D E8600@3.33 Ghz, C2D T8300@2.4 ghz, P4 @ 3.0 ghz, Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3P LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Dynamic Energy S Memory 2x8 GB Corsair, 4GB Kingston, 2GB GSkill Graphics Card ATI Radeon 4670 1 GB DDR3, 2600 Pro, 2400 Pro, Intel 965 Sound Card I don't care... Connected using Optical on Media Center Monitor(s) Displays Panasonic Viera 50" Plasma, 2x 19" Screen Resolution 1080P, 1280x1024's Case Antec P182 Gun Metal Black Hard Drives 4 Terabytes Internet Speed 20 Mbit U/D |
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if i buy an upgrade package, then fetch an ISO of a full install disc and run that instad, can i use my upgrade license to activate a the installation? or does windows somehow know that i have an 'upgrade serial' and that i'm not performing an upgrade? | My System Specs | | OS 7600 x86 CPU Core 2 Duo e7200, 2.53 ghz Motherboard Micro-Star MS-7529 Memory 2x DDR2 PC5300 1gb, 667 mhz Graphics Card GeForce 9500gt, 512mb Monitor(s) Displays 22" LG Flatron w2234s Screen Resolution 1680x1050 PSU CoolerMaster M520 Hard Drives Excelstor SATA-II 250gb 7200rpm, 8mb cache Internet Speed 30/20 mbits |
07-11-2009
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#10 | | Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04 |

Quote: Originally Posted by garbanzo if i buy an upgrade package, then fetch an ISO of a full install disc and run that instad, can i use my upgrade license to activate a the installation? or does windows somehow know that i have an 'upgrade serial' and that i'm not performing an upgrade? I'm not sure, but the custom installation from the upgrade iso is a clean full installation.. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number fakeasdf (c) OS Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04 CPU 2 x C2D E8600@3.33 Ghz, C2D T8300@2.4 ghz, P4 @ 3.0 ghz, Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3P LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Dynamic Energy S Memory 2x8 GB Corsair, 4GB Kingston, 2GB GSkill Graphics Card ATI Radeon 4670 1 GB DDR3, 2600 Pro, 2400 Pro, Intel 965 Sound Card I don't care... Connected using Optical on Media Center Monitor(s) Displays Panasonic Viera 50" Plasma, 2x 19" Screen Resolution 1080P, 1280x1024's Case Antec P182 Gun Metal Black Hard Drives 4 Terabytes Internet Speed 20 Mbit U/D Windows 7 RC To Final Upgrade Possible problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:42 PM. |  |