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Windows 7: Apple demanded Microsoft to stop its Laptop Hunters ads

17 Jul 2009   #21

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I remember the old Mac comercials from early 2000's, and then this came out...loved it

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxPXFptzQRY"]YouTube - Mac Gamer Spoof[/ame]

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17 Jul 2009   #22

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by schmoey View Post
Mmm, I just can't agree with you for that. OS X isn't supposed to run on anything other than Apple hardware. In fact, it's part of their EULA (non-Apple PCs running Mac OS are called "Hackint0sh"s for a reason). It's almost like saying a Civic engine didn't work so well in an F-150.
Thats the point exactly. That is the reason that Macs work so well. They only want it to work on their specific hardware. Which is also why they are so expensive. The difference is that you can never balance price you want, with performance you want. You get high-price with medium to high performance. There is no economy option.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pestbest View Post
That doesn't make sense at all. So if Apple does it, there's nothing wrong. But when Microsoft does it, they are nasty? That's simply illogical. In case you don't know, Laptop Hunter ads do not criticize Apple. They simply show consumers others opinions of different products. There's nothing in the ads that Mac Fanatics can disagree with.
Of course it doesn't make sense. It's Apple.

(no offense.... lol)

~Lordbob
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17 Jul 2009   #23

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Joshatdot View Post
I remember the old Mac comercials from early 2000's, and then this came out...loved it

YouTube - Mac Gamer Spoof
the one that caught my attention the most (and made laugh so hard when i first saw it) was this ad (which is part of the old Mac switch commercials..)

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17 Jul 2009   #24
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Thats the point exactly. That is the reason that Macs work so well. They only want it to work on their specific hardware. Which is also why they are so expensive. The difference is that you can never balance price you want, with performance you want. You get high-price with medium to high performance. There is no economy option.


Of course it doesn't make sense. It's Apple.

(no offense.... lol)

~Lordbob
You CAN get high-performance at low price - you just need to be a PC geek to do so ...

Edit: I just realized you were probably refering to Apple ...
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17 Jul 2009   #25

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by darkassain View Post
the one that caught my attention the most (and made laugh so hard when i first saw it) was this ad (which is part of the old Mac switch commercials..)
HAHA! I forgot where that audio clip came from. I've seen it so many time on AMV Hell, I forgot it was a real apple/switch commercial

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdqOIju4lL4"]YouTube - AMV Hell Think Different Clip[/ame]
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17 Jul 2009   #26

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by schmoey View Post
Mmm, I just can't agree with you for that. OS X isn't supposed to run on anything other than Apple hardware. In fact, it's part of their EULA (non-Apple PCs running Mac OS are called "Hackint0sh"s for a reason). It's almost like saying a Civic engine didn't work so well in an F-150.
I know, but needless to say it was just an experiment to see for myself if I still missed the mac OS, and now i'm back to a raid set of Windows 7.

My point was, as Lord Bob has understood, was to make my Mac owning pal understand why he and I both preached the 'it just works' mantra but now I say, it's not so. It took a load of effort to make it run on my machine which is a quarter of the cost of his apple store spec'd unit.

The cheapest they do now is the mac mini, which in itself still needs monitor and KB and mouse, so ultimately never really works out that cheap.
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17 Jul 2009   #27

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by saverio View Post
I know, but needless to say it was just an experiment to see for myself if I still missed the mac OS, and now i'm back to a raid set of Windows 7.

My point was, as Lord Bob has understood, was to make my Mac owning pal understand why he and I both preached the 'it just works' mantra but now I say, it's not so. It took a load of effort to make it run on my machine which is a quarter of the cost of his apple store spec'd unit.

The cheapest they do now is the mac mini, which in itself still needs monitor and KB and mouse, so ultimately never really works out that cheap.
It just works.

And it costs you an arm and leg.

Lol.
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17 Jul 2009   #28

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

you're not wrong lol
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17 Jul 2009   #29

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by saverio View Post
I used to be a real Apple fanboy till I started playing with Windows 7 beta.

And, my battlecry was always "it just works, well you pay more, but they last longer - don't date as quickly"

I recently tried to install a copy of OS X on my PC, and finally did it - I can honestly say no, your stuff doesn't 'just works' ... well it does, but the sentence isn't complete - it should be "it just works - on apple stuff"

It dawned on me, I needed a cooked bios, new driver kexts, and loads of messing around in order to get a retail paid for version of os x to run on my collection of bits in a case. Whatever jumble of junk I have in that case, I load Windows 7, and it... just works!

I was discussing this with a friend of mine who still has his mac, and he preached to me like I preached to others in the past, it was a real deja-vu wierd moment.

I said look, I can build a really good powerful machine for under 700 gbp - I really want a mac pro but at over 2k, have you any idea what I could build for that money !!

The mac mini just doesn't cut it, and the imac- yep , i've had two, but i'm damned if i'm paying premium dollar for essentially a static laptop, however nice the screen is - and then Sony and HP offer the same form factor but with bigger screens and specs.

Don't get me wrong, I still love the mac OS X, I really think that there is nothing in Windows 7 to beat coverflow for browsing folder contents or expose , or the disc utility, but their hardware comes at a real premium.

Said friend, bought a mac mini (600) with BT keyboard and mouse (100) and the new LED display (650) . . sure, it all looks lovely... but video editing? photoshop? Maya? nah.

I'm drifting, the Microsoft ads never confront apple head on, and in this case, the customer makes the observation, not MS - i'm sure it's scripted, but you get the gist.

How can apple say this, when their advertising campaing was a direct assault on the deficiencies of their competitor? If anything one could say that they,with the uneducated sensationalist media contributed to the failure that was Vista. I know lots of people who wont touch vista with a pole, but don't really know why.

I can see the next legal threat will be when Apple informers see Microsoft staff wearing a black roll neck in an ad. - Why pay 20 for a rollneck when you can charge 200? but hey, it just works.
I just wanted to say, I really appreciate this post. It's nice to see a Mac user actually use logical reasoning.

I'll start off saying (and you can search my old posts) that I am not a Mac Fanatic, but I'm having a hard time believing this story regarding the ads. Apple's legal department is not going to call MS's marketing group and complain about an ad, this just doesn't make sense.

Now for my commentary.

Many people make the mistake of looking at Apple as a software company, but they are not. Apple is first and foremost a hardware company. They happen to make an OS to run on their hardware, but it isn't really their main product. This OS is visually very nice, and even the most die-hard MS supporter should recognize the attention to detail that Apple puts into OSX. Apple also has some very highly regarded UX folks that know how to make even complicated apps easy to understand.

The problem is that the Mac User base is mistaking pretty with bullet-proof. While OSX is built on Unix, Apple made a few decisions that have made OSX less than secure. Apple seems to think they are immune, and there will be a day that some blackhat org is going to lay waste to OSX, just to prove a point.

The point you are making about Windows and hardware is huge. Apple has to only support a very small configuration set, and they are more than willing to obsolete an entire line to move forward. Their userbase is so small, relative to MS, that they really don't care who they screw.

MS, on the other hand, has made a business decision to support backwards compatability. Many suggest this stunts Window's growth, but is why MS has about a 93% Userbase worldwide. On top of that, MS supports basically an infinite configuration set of hardware. Linux comes pretty close to supporting the same set, and includes completely different architectures that Windows doesn't.

What Windows has is a standard. Everyone knows Windows and Windows programs. And while the GUI between Vista and XP is visually different, the basic functions are the same. The number of mouse-clicks hasn't really changed.

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17 Jul 2009   #30

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Linux??

"I wonder how Apple & MS would react to a commercial for Linux OS PC's "


They would just laugh it off like everybody else does.
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