| Windows 7: New Anti-Piracy Weapon Revealed |
30 Jul 2011
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#11 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit Peterborough, England |
Let me make one thing clear; I do not condone piracy, because each time software is stolen, it reduces revenue stream and therefore forces those of us that do play by the rules to pay more than we otherwise would have done.
That said, the global internet is to a certain degree one of the last bastions of free speech, and if ISPs are being forced to vet where we can go and what we do on the information highway, how long will it be before governments pass legislation to allow us to see only what THEY want us to see?
George Orwell's world is never too far away, it seems. | My System Specs |
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30 Jul 2011
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#12 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |

Quote: Originally Posted by severedsolo This is just the beginning. The sad thing is, most people will just let this happen. This will be the anchor that allows the DEA to be enforced. Before we know it, it will be "Great Firewall of Britain."
I've made my thoughts on this clear, in fact I am a member of ORG (who were referenced in the article), but just to be clear I do not condone piracy.
Neither do I condone these methods though, in particular, under the DEA (which I maintain this is a small step towards enforcing) a website can be blocked if it "is, has been or potentially could be used for piracy." That's every site on the damn net!
If they keep doing it like this then fine, fair enough. It needs to be all ISP's though. Even then it will fail, but at least they are trying. Note - again I DO NOT condone piracy - however -
If I had to appear before a Court every time I POTENTIALLY could do something then I'd be arrested EVERY TIME a beautiful woman got on to the same Tube train I might be travelling in on my visits to London - -- and I'm sure I wouldn't be alone in thinking how I could "enjoy myself" with XXX. !!
If I saw these I'd be straight in jail -- and before people wonder If I'm really that strange --this was one of an approved 3rd party desktop from Windows XP (the rare 64 bit version) called lotsofladies.jpg
(Perhaps this was why XP 64 bit never made it mainstream) !!!
Cheers
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30 Jul 2011
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#13 | | |
Why are you so against it anyway?
piracy online is like stealing a movie from a movie store. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo G560(this is a laptop) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M370 2.40GHz Memory 2 GB RAM Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Grpahics (not worth the money) Screen Resolution 1360 x 768 |
30 Jul 2011
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#14 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Senteaf Why are you so against it anyway?
piracy online is like stealing a movie from a movie store. In reality most people who download this media can't afford them. Also there is a chain link here and that is that people who have involved themselves in piracy have bought computers. Their purchasing power has affected the rest of us because it makes computer products cheaper. So, the end result will be they don't buy any computers any more effectively making computers that much more expensive.
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30 Jul 2011
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#15 | | |
ahhh potentially
well in that case - destroy every car, throw away every gun, crobar, knife....because potentially almost anything and everything can do harm.
oh wait - potentially harm profits, duh!
Isn't this part of facism, this whole "pre-crime" thing to protect corporations? Granted YES companies deserve to have their products protected - but placing potentially on anything means you are trying to predict something that just may never happen.
What protects a site that is erroneously shutdown due to potentiality?
I like the analogy with women, nice supplemental material as well | My System Specs | | |
30 Jul 2011
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#16 | | Windows 8 Professional 64-bit Minnesota |
P2P filesharing is not the only way to obtain "material". | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 8 Professional 64-bit CPU Intel Core i3-2100 Motherboard ASRock Intel Z68M/USB3 Memory 4GB Graphics Card GeForece GTX 550 Ti Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 PSU 750w |
30 Jul 2011
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#17 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bits. |

Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 
Quote: Originally Posted by severedsolo This is just the beginning. The sad thing is, most people will just let this happen. This will be the anchor that allows the DEA to be enforced. Before we know it, it will be "Great Firewall of Britain."
I've made my thoughts on this clear, in fact I am a member of ORG (who were referenced in the article), but just to be clear I do not condone piracy.
Neither do I condone these methods though, in particular, under the DEA (which I maintain this is a small step towards enforcing) a website can be blocked if it "is, has been or potentially could be used for piracy." That's every site on the damn net!
If they keep doing it like this then fine, fair enough. It needs to be all ISP's though. Even then it will fail, but at least they are trying. Note - again I DO NOT condone piracy - however -
If I had to appear before a Court every time I POTENTIALLY could do something then I'd be arrested EVERY TIME a beautiful woman got on to the same Tube train I might be travelling in on my visits to London - -- and I'm sure I wouldn't be alone in thinking how I could "enjoy myself" with XXX. !!
If I saw these I'd be straight in jail -- and before people wonder If I'm really that strange --this was one of an approved 3rd party desktop from Windows XP (the rare 64 bit version) called lotsofladies.jpg
(Perhaps this was why XP 64 bit never made it mainstream) !!!
Cheers
jimbo porn is allowed? here in this forum jimbo? | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bits. |
30 Jul 2011
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#18 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Norfolk, VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by seavixen32 Let me make one thing clear; I do not condone piracy, because each time software is stolen, it reduces revenue stream and therefore forces those of us that do play by the rules to pay more than we otherwise would have done.
That said, the global internet is to a certain degree one of the last bastions of free speech, and if ISPs are being forced to vet where we can go and what we do on the information highway, how long will it be before governments pass legislation to allow us to see only what THEY want us to see?
George Orwell's world is never too far away, it seems. You can't rationalize it like that since many pirates had no intention of purchasing the software in the first place.
And stealing a digital copy of software is not the same thing as me going into a store and stealing physical products, the latter would cause products to go up in price due to theft. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HAL-9000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel i7 3770K Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card XFX HD6950 2GB EyeFinity Sound Card Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD Monitor(s) Displays 23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic Screen Resolution 5760x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 and G13 Mouse Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse PSU Antec True Power New 650watt Case Cooler Master HAF-932 Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan Hard Drives 16TB of Storage
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30 Jul 2011
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#19 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 I don't encourage piracy but THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT --in any case the use of a proxy makes this whole approach totally useless anyway. But not everybody would jump through hoops to get things. Some measures stop some people...so I wouldn't consider these steps useless. They are just steps, not "be-all, end-all" solutions. 
Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 One needs a DECENT COMMERCIAL approach to all this -- price the products properly and piracy becoms just a pin prick rather than a big commercial headache. I don't see where reducing prices resolve the issues. People steal Adobe Photoshop because it's $600. People steal Microsoft Office because it's $300-$500 depending upon version. People steal Windows because it's $200. People pirate video games that are $40. People pirate AV apps that are $20. People steal whatever they can. I don't see where reducing prices will make the loss from piracy any less....because then the actual sales would also drop substantially...so the net result might just be the same.
I don't pirate anything because there are plenty of free alternatives out there. I'd rather use a more complicated or less sophisticated product that give Adobe Photoshop the time of day by stealing it. If Adobe wanted my business, their product wouldn't be $600. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Runckle_SP1 In reality most people who download this media can't afford them. Also there is a chain link here and that is that people who have involved themselves in piracy have bought computers. I hate this argument that people pirate it because they cannot afford it. If you cannot afford it, find a free alternative. If you cannot find a free alternative, simply choose to not use the product that you are using. There are lots of things that I want that I cannot afford, but I don't feel entitled to just take it if I can get away with it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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03 Aug 2011
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#20 | | Primary HDD boot Win 7 Ultimate x64, on partition Ubuntu 11.04 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Runckle_SP1
I think you have misunderstood the situation. It creates a legal precedent in the UK to make all blocking of websites legal. This means you can block those proxy servers that allow access to those websites as well. So, in point of fact Britain will soon be cut off from all those nasty websites that contain or are able to access pirated work. I wasn't trying to minimalism the problem here, I was merely pointing out the fact that it is a waste of time and resources on their part due to the fact that they cannot fully block access as one can circumvent their attempts.
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